JMM dont deserve to fight Pac now. He has done nothing since moving up from 130

[comanick]

The real question is what has pac done since leaving 130? To my knowledge he hasnt beaten a #1 fighter since then? If any thing i think JMM has done more in the last few years. At least he fought the #1 lightweight and unified an even moved up in weight to fight the best fighter in the world (something manny wont due) even in a loss. JMM has fought more quality fights than pac has in the last few years. Pac hasnt fought anyone that mattered when they actually mattered since the first morales fight.

[mikemurni]

Each of the fighters Juan Manuel Marquez fought after 130 are at least 6 billion times better than David Diaz.

What earns you a fight against Pacquiao anyways?

Do you have to get knockout by Israel Vazquez and then move up divisions like Oscar Larios did?

Or do you have to lose a lopsided loss to Zahir Raheem like Erik Morales.

Or do you have to lose for the very first time in your career like Ricky Hatton?

Before you say something like that, you have to know that each of JMM's fights at any weight had loses too.. And that most of them when they decided to step up their competition (Katsidis, Diaz), they choked and got exposed.. So really when it was time to step up, these fighters just didnt have what it takes..

You cant really say the same to fighter like EM, MAB, and JMM, which Pac defeated at the lower weights..I mean c'mon, you are comparing them against MAB and Morales..

Larrios, Solis, and Diaz were tuneup fights. You really want to compare JMM's so-called big wins to Pac's tuneup..

[MXboxingfan]

Before you say something like that, you have to know that each of JMM's fights at any weight had loses too.. And that most of them when they decided up their competition (Katsidis, Diaz).. So really when it was time to step, these fighters just didnt have what it takes.. You cant really the same to fights that Pac took at the lower weights where he fought EM, MAB, and JMM..

Larrios, Solis, and Diaz were tuneup fights. You really want to compare JMM's so-called big wins to Pac's tuneup..

Those guys were the best of Marquez's division and he fought them at their weight. They were not a bunch of David Diaz's.

Pacquiao just wants to fight guys who are either shot or have already been exposed like Margarito. He also refuses to fight them at their weight and demands catweights.

[mikemurni]

The real question is what has pac done since leaving 130? To my knowledge he hasnt beaten a #1 fighter since then? If any thing i think JMM has done more in the last few years. At least he fought the #1 lightweight and unified an even moved up in weight to fight the best fighter in the world (something manny wont due) even in a loss. JMM has fought more quality fights than pac has in the last few years. Pac hasnt fought anyone that mattered when they actually mattered since the first morales fight.

Pac fought a fighter who were legitimately the best in that division (Hatton and JMM)..He fought the top WW's in Mosley, Cotto, and Marg.. He defied the odds by beating the DLH..

Campbell was the best LW, but he chose to fight Diaz and Casamayor instead..
He unified the belts because Campbell vacated his.. So really he only fought one fighter (a shot Casamayor) to unify the belt..

[AllEyesOpen]

How can you say that Marg, Cotto, and Mosley were not the top WW's when their lose came against each other. Their not exactly losing against bum opponents.. Clottey was a good fight as a replacement for the Floyd fight..Other than Williams, he was the best option.. A lot can be said after the fight but that's because he was fighting Pac, but Clottey is one of the top WW's..

The 2 fights that you are referring to took place in 2008 at SFW.. Pac has done way more at the higher weights than JMM...And I said way, way more.. Because JMM has really done nothing significant at all (other than the Floyd fight) since moving up to LW...

The point i was trying to make was i can just as easily discredit Pac's wins as you can discredit Marquez. It's all opinion. JMM fought the linear champ, one of the top lw twice, Mayweather and his manditory back at lw. Pac fought DLH who was not a top ww, Hatton who was 1 fight away from a coke-filled retirement, Cotto who was brutally destroyed by Marg and barely survived a fight with Clottey who just stood there for most of the fight, & Marg for a title at a weightclass he shouldn't have even been ranked top 10 in.( I don't mention Clottey cause that wasn't even a fight, Clottey just stood there as usual)

Again, see how easy it is.

Now the truth is they both have continued to fight very good opposition and both have been winning big, the only unfinished business either one of them has is with eachother.

[mikemurni]

Those guys were the best of Marquez's division and he fought them at their weight. They were not a bunch of David Diaz's.

Pacquiao just wants to fight guys who are either shot or have already been exposed like Margarito. He also refuses to fight them at their weight and demands catweights.

They were the best in their weights because the top fighters like Pac and Campbell already moved up to the higher weights. The best time for the LW division was in 2008 but JMM didnt exactly fight guys like Guzman, Valero and Campbell. Valero and Guzman were a good fights because he was undefeated at that time.

Casamayor was shot, Katsidis and Diaz were already both exposed. And were only talking about the LW division here. Note that he wants to fight Pac at WW...

[mikemurni]

If JMM wanted to make a statement on 2008 at LW, he should have fought Campbell. If he wanted to fight the best at LW in 2010 after being defeated at WW, then he should have fought Soto or Guerero..

[dvb]

Marquez has looked good,but its mostly beating same size brawlers that are made for him,so to say he beats pac now cuz of this,its not making sense,and to say he does this while going up weight and being slower than when he last fought pac makes even less sense,plus pac being natural at the weight now,being as fast and if not stronger,with better technique and more to his game now.

I dont find his wins over katsidis or diaz that special at all,if you consider the level they were both at.

Marquez would convince me more if he beat the other lightweight champions and unified lightweight,and looked to be able to fight light welters and welters and beat them convingly enough to say he could make a 3rd fight with pac competitive.

[mikemurni]

Marquez has looked good,but its mostly beating same size brawlers that are made for him,so to say he beats pac now cuz of this,its not making sense,and to say he does this while going up weight and being slower than when he last fought pac makes even less sense,plus pac being natural at the weight now,being as fast and if not stronger,with better technique and more to his game now.

I dont find his wins over katsidis or diaz that special at all,if you consider the level they were both at.

Marquez would convince me more if he beat the other lightweight champions and unified lightweight,and looked to be able to fight light welters and welters and beat them convingly enough to say he could make a 3rd fight with pac competitive.

Here...This is what I am tryin' to say...

[jrosales13]

Mosley at least in one of his last 3 fights defeated a top WW. JMM has done nothing of significance in his last 5 fights. On those were on the LW division.

If you're going by that ****** logic.

Casamayor was the lineal champion.

Diaz was a top 3 LW

Katsidis was ranked #1 at LW by every respectable ranking.

JMM fight is just as garbage as the Mosley fight.