Comments Thread For: Manny Pacquiao: I'll Fight Mayweather, The Fans Want It

[LeadUppercut]

Funny how Floyd and his posse keep talking about tests, while the other parties talk about the fight. If you don't want something, there's always an excuse.

Agreed.

Genius, Team Pacquiao gave a total of 6 different ridiculous excuses as to why Pacquiao would not submit to random blood tests.....

..... go on, enlighten us dude, which one did you believe ?

I do expect a reply.

[Ragnar Lothbrok]

floyd will be haunted, blamed, & disgraced FOREVER if the pac fight doesnt come off.

[AFighter4U]

Bull**** kid. Cotto most definitely did not agree to it.

Cotto stated "147 if you want my title, or a non-title fight if you need a catch-weight"..... But oh no, as usual, Manny won't fight unless he has a distinct advantage.

Have all of your " whine's " been addressed now ?

true, Cotto didn't agree to it at first.

but he eventually did.

you make it sound like a crime for fighters to want to fight with an advantage. the catchweight was to balance out cotto's size advantage over pac. how quickly you forget the floyd himself fought at a catchweight against a smaller, older, fatter foe.

and reneged on their agreement and cheated at the weight, in spite of so many advantages in his favor.

THAT is what you call fighting with a distinct advantage.

and fighting at a catchweight which you don't agree with in the first place may be disadvantageous to you, but its no way a game changer.

look at martinez. i definitely remember him saying something like looking down at those who fight at catchweight, yet he eventually agreed to fight Pwilliams AT A CATCHWEIGHT. He didn't agree to it at first, but he decided to go ahead with it, steeled himself for the fight and went out and did his job.

And he won. in a major way.

[mikemurni]

I claimed that Margarito and Clottey had both battered Cotto. EVERYBODY was saying that Cotto looked shop-worn and faded after Clottey. Miguel was not on top of his game, he had no trainer to speak of, and he most definitely was not in his prime...... plus, Pacquiao ATTEMPTED to drain him on the scales, which was a b1tch-move, because Pac had already fought at 147.

Give yourself an uppercut.


Because whiney ****s like you keep trying to insinuate that "Cotto is better than.....". So, I am just pointing out that you are full of ****.

It is a joke that Cotto is the "new" and "improved" Pacquiao's best win, considering that he was shop-worn and faded, had no trainer to speak of, and he most definitely was not in his prime..... plus, Pac tried to drain him

The fact is Cotto agreed to it, and personally said before and after the fight that the weight didnt affect him at all. Its really pathetic you are givin all this excuses when the fighter himself (Cotto) never utter a single complain about the weight, you whiny b!tch..
Bull**** kid. Cotto most definitely did not agree to it.

Cotto stated "147 if you want my title, or a non-title fight if you need a catch-weight"..... But oh no, as usual, Manny won't fight unless he has a distinct advantage.

Have all of your " whine's " been addressed now ?

I notice when you get cornered you try to spin **** around and reset your argument. This is the reason why argument with you morons never end..

You say that Cotto was shop worn, well that's because he fought another top WW in Clottey.. That's what happens when a top fighter fights another top fighter, they wont always look great..

You say Cotto didnt have a good trainer.. Just to let you know, here is my response to that crap you call a post which you didnt refute, again:
you said that Cotto didnt have the proper trainer on his side. This is the because load of crap I have ever heard. Cotto held his trainer in high regard when he fought Pac. Steward offered his services for that fight but Cotto turn it down because he felt comfortable with Santiago.. And how the **** is that Pac's fault. Cotto is being paid high enough to hire the best trainer in perhaps in one of his biggest fight of his career.. Plus he was already having problems with his old trainer/uncle (lawsuit, fight) so the dynamics between trainer/fighter would have been an added distraction that he didnt need.

Then you say Pac attempted to drain him on the scale.. Cotto agreed to the weight moron..He wanted more money that's why he used the weight and the title as a bargaining chip..And Cotto never complained after the contract was signed not even after the fight..

You said he was not on his prime.. Cotto had a lose in his career, and that was against Marg, who is a top WW himself, whom Pac also fought. In fact he fought both Clottey and Marg, both fighters that you say gave Cotto the most trouble in his career. So there's really nothing to whine about..But because you are b!tch you would probably do it anyway..

You said that Pac fought at WW.. Another rehashed argument..Here's another rehashed reply:

Did you give Pac his props when he fought DLH? Because if not, how can you use that as a guage that Pac can fight at WW. He had 3 fights in 3 different weight classes before he fought Cotto, so how can you justify that he was a legitimate WW at that time...

[ALAXAN_FR]

I really don't see why people are struggling to understand this, Bob Arum/Top Rank and Pacquiao included. The man was told point blank that his fan(s) wants him to fight Pacquiao, his immediate response was 'I'm taking a coupld of years off'.

He's on record saying that he's not thinking about boxing, on vacation, and taking a couple of years off.

Why do we need 500-response threads debating pointlessly when one of the principals is saying he doesn't want to fight and is taking an extended vacation? Claims he didn't even bother trying to negotiate and make a fight happen last summer.

Again, the man was told POINT BLACK 'He [Your fan] wants you to fight Pacquiao' and he responded 'I'm taking a couple of years off', didn't even entertain the idea. I cannot stress this enough.

But no, don't mind me... fritter away more time pointlessly rehashing the same bull**** from 2009

You're too right my man. Seems like this thread has invited so much "Know it all". But for the life of me, this issue has been around since (yes) 2009, heated up till 2010 with the accusations and still a serious debacle untill now.
My point here is we've been through a lot of mass speculations that borders on senseless arguments. Catch Weights, PEDS, Moral issues, court cases....hell even politics... all fueled by the hype of the "dream fight match".
Don't need the chatter no more....

Plain and simple.... somebody calls on you.... you duck by givin excuses - mano-e-mano... thats chickening out. This is BOXING not a science project.

[LeadUppercut]

true, Cotto didn't agree to it at first.

but he eventually did.

you make it sound like a crime for fighters to want to fight with an advantage. the catchweight was to balance out cotto's size advantage over pac. how quickly you forget the floyd himself fought at a catchweight against a smaller, older, fatter foe.

and reneged on their agreement and cheated at the weight, in spite of so many advantages in his favor.

THAT is what you call fighting with a distinct advantage.

Who cares ?

It is a joke that you attack Mayweather in order to defend Manny.

e.g.
Manny did so and so..... "yea but Floyd....."

So, Mayweather set's the standard for Manny ?

You must rate Mayweather higher than I do then.

How does your blame-diverting get Manny off the hook ?

How does it change the fact that the "new" and "improved" Pacquiao's best win is over a guy who was faded, shop-worn, had just been battered by cheato and Clottey, had no trainer, was not on top of his game, and most definitely was not in his prime?

You quote an exception by Mayweather, and ignore the rule by Pacquiao.

Manny is making a living fighting old men and plodders.

and fighting at a catchweight which you don't agree with in the first place may be disadvantageous to you, but its no way a game changer.

look at martinez. i definitely remember him saying something like looking down at those who fight at catchweight, yet he eventually agreed to fight Pwilliams AT A CATCHWEIGHT. He didn't agree to it at first, but he decided to go ahead with it, steeled himself for the fight and went out and did his job.

And he won. in a major way.

That example is absurd.

Manny won't fight in his own division without a catch-weight, and at JMW, he won't fight at all..... and then you compare him to Martinez?

Martinez isn't the b1tch calling for catch-weights, he knocks those clowns out

[LeadUppercut]

I notice when you get cornered you try to spin **** around and reset your argument. This is the reason why argument with you morons never end..

You say that Cotto was shop worn, well that's because he fought another top WW in Clottey.. That's what happens when a top fighter fights another top fighter, they wont always look great..

You say Cotto didnt have a good trainer.. Just to let you know, here is my response to that crap you call a post which you didnt refute, again:
you said that Cotto didnt have the proper trainer on his side. This is the because load of crap I have ever heard. Cotto held his trainer in high regard when he fought Pac. Steward offered his services for that fight but Cotto turn it down because he felt comfortable with Santiago.. And how the **** is that Pac's fault. Cotto is being paid high enough to hire the best trainer in perhaps in one of his biggest fight of his career.. Plus he was already having problems with his old trainer/uncle (lawsuit, fight) so the dynamics between trainer/fighter would have been an added distraction that he didnt need.

Then you say Pac attempted to drain him on the scale.. Cotto agreed to the weight moron..He wanted more money that's why he used the weight and the title as a bargaining chip..And Cotto never complained after the contract was signed not even after the fight..

You said he was not on his prime.. Cotto had a lose in his career, and that was against Marg, who is a top WW himself, whom Pac also fought. In fact he fought both Clottey and Marg, both fighters that you say gave Cotto the most trouble in his career. So there's really nothing to whine about..But because you are b!tch you would probably do it anyway..

You said that Pac fought at WW.. Another rehashed argument..Here's another rehashed reply:

Did you give Pac his props when he fought DLH? Because if not, how can you use that as a guage that Pac can fight at WW. He had 3 fights in 3 different weight classes before he fought Cotto, so how can you justify that he was a legitimate WW at that time...

Kid.....

For THE SIXTH TIME.....

I challenge to refute anything in my post that is even slightly inaccurate.....

Originally Posted by LeadUppercut

The only ww that Manny has EVER fought at 147 is..... Josh Clottey.

Mayweather fought Mitchell, Judah, Baldomir, Mosley..... I don't count Hatton or Marquez as WW.

So, let's summarize.....

Above 147.....
Manny fought faded no-wraps cheato at catch-weight, Floyd fought Hoya at 154 when he was champ, no comparison there.

At 147.....
Clottey, who wouldn't fight back for some reason, and Cotto at 145..... is not as good as Mitchell, Judah, Baldomir, Mosley, Hatton, and Marquez at 147.

Don't duck me son, man up.

[mikemurni]

Kid.....

For THE SIXTH TIME.....

I challenge to refute anything in my post that is even slightly inaccurate.....

Originally Posted by LeadUppercut

The only ww that Manny has EVER fought at 147 is..... Josh Clottey.

Mayweather fought Mitchell, Judah, Baldomir, Mosley..... I don't count Hatton or Marquez as WW.

So, let's summarize.....

Above 147.....
Manny fought faded no-wraps cheato at catch-weight, Floyd fought Hoya at 154 when he was champ, no comparison there.

At 147.....
Clottey, who wouldn't fight back for some reason, and Cotto at 145..... is not as good as Mitchell, Judah, Baldomir, Mosley, Hatton, and Marquez at 147.

Don't duck me son, man up.

That post had been trashed, refuted, bashed, dismantled, and owned numerous times for the last 5 pages. You just refuse to accept it, and which also validates what I have always implied that you will always goin to reset your argument when you feel like you got owned. Well you got owned, thus explain the repetitive post...Its either that or reading comprehension is not your strong suit...

[AeKhuban]

Why would you ask me that question, when it was answered in the post that you replied to?

NO testing at all = random, as long as both fighters are under the impression that they could be tested at anytime.

It is the possibility, that makes the test random.

Anyone with half a fkn brain can see that.

Why don't you guys smarten up and stop making ****** excuses.

Because your answer will not caught a PED user, random test all the way up to the fight to you is a bluffing test all the way up to the fight and even no testing at all.
Ped user = is a PED user. Giving them under the impression alone that they could be tested at anytime will not caught a PED user. You are under ramdom testing all the way up to the fight. You are clean even no testing at all happen all the way to fight anyway you are under the impression that we will test you at anytime? So if your under impression or in the possibility to undergo random test and still use a PED sometime on the way of the fight and because No testing at all happen then you will not be caught. Correct?

[Da Hammer]

Funny how the whole world except a couple of disgrunted *****s on this thread realize that floyd is the only one keeping this fight from happening. Really pathetic floyd fans...