Is it disgraceful for a mandatory to backout of a title shot because of a hotel room?

[ChopperRead]

Not only is that not the point, but it's probably also not the only reason.

What kind of man wants to pick where another man stays? You don't find that somewhat sad? It's pretty pathetic that one man feels like he needs to control each and every aspect of another mans life.

Yeah, just ask Monte Barrett: Hayemaker productions had him holed up in a London flophouse before the Haye-Barrett fight.

[johnm is...]

You do know how a mandatory process works in boxing, don't you? Do you what "mandatory" means and how the purse bid process works? If you don't, I suggest you read up on it ASAP before you post on a boxing forum.

I know that it doesn't give you the right to control every aspect of a mans life. I know that Wlad is the only person that makes such pathetic demands. And I know there's absolutely nothing wrong with his opponent having a problem with it.

You should leave the boxing forum, and go start a "got my head up Wlad's ass" forum.

[WladIsTheChamp]

And because he was trying to pick where and what he was allowed to eat.

If you're going to quote it, do it right.

Either way.. there's nothing wrong with not wanting to let another man control your entire life. What's sad, is that Wlad actually WANTS to control that much. What's sadder than that, is that you're defending it.

It's fight negoatiations... Wlad is acting like his fucking wife.

Once again, it's not negotiations, it's a mandatory purse bid process, two totally difirrent things. It seems like you don't know the difference.

According to the sanctioning body rules, the champ gets to dictate those small things to the challenger, especially since the champ also owns the promotional company that won the purse bid, and they will be paying for Povetkin's stay at the hotel. If Saureland won the bid, Povetkin would be staying in the hotel they told him to stay at, except that Saureland bid half as much as K2 did. Povetkin got twice as much money from K2's bid than from Saureland, and he is complaining about the hotel room? You have to remember that Povetkin is a slave to Saureland already, it's not like he is a free man, so him spouting about "slave" this and "slave" that, he is already a slave to Saureland, just like the Hayefaker is when he signed a 3 fight option with them.

[ChopperRead]

And because he was trying to pick where and what he was allowed to eat.

If you're going to quote it, do it right.

Either way.. there's nothing wrong with not wanting to let another man control your entire life. What's sad, is that Wlad actually WANTS to control that much. What's sadder than that, is that you're defending it.

It's fight negoatiations... Wlad is acting like his fucking wife.

As I said, Haye did the same thing to Barrett, and Ruiz didn't even bother going to London for the final presser, so he mostly avoided getting the treatment Haye gave Monte.

[johnm is...]

Yeah, just ask Monte Barrett: Hayemaker productions had him holed up in a London flophouse before the Haye-Barrett fight.

Then it's up to Monte Barrett to take issue with it.

This isn't me defending Haye, or Povetkin, or anyone else.. I can't stand Haye. And I don't dislike the Klitschko's.... but they're divas in every sense of the word.

[johnm is...]

As I said, Haye did the same thing to Barrett, and Ruiz didn't even bother going to London for the final presser, so he mostly avoided getting the treatment Haye gave Monte.

Why do you keep bringing up Haye? Just because I dislike the way Wlad negotiates, doesn't make me a Haye fanboy.

Jesus Christ.. there is a such thing as "boxing fans". Not everyone is a fanboy of an individual. I can't fucking stand David Haye.

[WladIsTheChamp]

I know that it doesn't give you the right to control every aspect of a mans life. I know that Wlad is the only person that makes such pathetic demands. And I know there's absolutely nothing wrong with his opponent having a problem with it.

You should leave the boxing forum, and go start a "got my head up Wlad's ass" forum.

You don't know **** apparently. So Povetkin was sitting on a mandatory shot for 2+ years, gets a $2.5 million purse and a chance at 3 belts, and he turns it down because he didn't like his hotel room? Oh and don't forget that intially his trainer came out and said "Povetkin is not ready", so if you are going to believe Povetkin now, then you must have **** for brains.

[ChopperRead]

I know that it doesn't give you the right to control every aspect of a mans life. I know that Wlad is the only person that makes such pathetic demands. And I know there's absolutely nothing wrong with his opponent having a problem with it.

You should leave the boxing forum, and go start a "got my head up Wlad's ass" forum.

You should call Monte Barrett and ask him how he got treated by Hayemaker productions.

[ChopperRead]

Why do you keep bringing up Haye? Just because I dislike the way Wlad negotiates, doesn't make me a Haye fanboy.

Jesus Christ.. there is a such thing as "boxing fans". Not everyone is a fanboy of an individual. I can't fucking stand David Haye.

Because you're acting like K2 is the only outfit to do these things.

Boxers never used to publicly air these kind of gripes, but things have changed.

[johnm is...]

Once again, it's not negotiations, it's a mandatory purse bid process, two totally difirrent things. It seems like you don't know the difference.

According to the sanctioning body rules, the champ gets to dictate those small things to the challenger, especially since the champ also owns the promotional company that won the purse bid, and they will be paying for Povetkin's stay at the hotel. If Saureland won the bid, Povetkin would be staying in the hotel they told him to stay at, except that Saureland bid half as much as K2 did. Povetkin got twice as much money from K2's bid than from Saureland, and he is complaining about the hotel room? You have to remember that Povetkin is a slave to Saureland already, it's not like he is a free man, so him spouting about "slave" this and "slave" that, he is already a slave to Saureland, just like the Hayefaker is when he signed a 3 fight option with them.

You don't seem to understand what I'm saying. I just don't think there's anything wrong with a person having an issue with another person telling him when and where to eat, when he's going to be training to fight that person.