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Originally posted by blackirish137 View PostBarrera was far from his prime, no doubt, but the cut was bad. it had to be stopped eventually.
I always liked Barrera, much more than Khan, but Barrera wasnt going to win that fight.
Its not a very good win becuase Barrera was WAY past it, but I dont think you can ignore it completely.
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your momma mustve been a great ass-whooper for you not to call Kotelnik-Alexander an ass-whooping. Where I'm friom we call it an ass-whooping.
Aside from the knock out the funniest thing was Prescott carrying Khan around like a trophy.
It's amazing that people are judging Devon based on a fight he has win in, yet ignore Khan's previous frailties. Boxing fans are most fickle bunch in the business, so quick to forget previous accomplishments and failures based on the present.
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Originally posted by blackirish137 View Post...Alexander lost against Kotelnik. flat out. the majority of boxing writers, fans, this website...all had Kotelnik winning. people exaggerate the dominance somewhat, but Alexander still obviously lost. he was missing so often, and I felt Kotelnik landed more shots on him AND had the more effective clean shots.
Im saying a win over Kotelnik is better than a win over Alexander.
irrelevant. fact is, he was a quality fighter at 140lbs. Ignoring the win is like saying that Foremans win over Frazier didnt mean much, since the fight stylistically favored Foreman.
going up one weight class doesnt ruin a fighter, especially in this day and age with day before weigh ins.
I dont give Malignaggi as much credit as I do Marquez, but of course I give him credit for the win. And you should as well.
Khan clearly deserved to win either way. I wont ever deny it was a tough fight for him. but in the end he won(legitimately) over a top fighter in the division, that is definitely a plus.
...what has Devon done at 140? beat Urango? How is Urango better than Maidana?
and considering Kotelnik>Alexander, yes, Khans one victory over Kotelnik is better than anything Alexander has done.
Bradley you can legitimately debate. no way can you debate Alexander is more accomplished than Khan.
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Originally posted by Pullcounter View Postgood argument, but a less than convincing one. I gotta see a rematch to know for sure who between the two of them (not anyone else) is the better.
I'm saying we can't know that until we see a rematch.
not ignoring it, just saying it doesn't ***** what alexander has done.
c'mon man, diaz had no business at jr WW.
malignaggi gets credit, but not much.
there are pluses and minuses in khan's performance. that's why you can't put all your stock in that fight.
devon is a unifed champ. khan has a paper title.
kotelnik is not better than alexander. this is where you fail.
uh... alexander is a unified champ at jr WW. khan is a paper champ.
look, what has Alexander done? wins over Witter and Urango and a gift over Kotelnik. you honestly believe thats better than legitimate wins over Maidana, Malignaggi and Kotelnik?
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Originally posted by blackirish137 View Postall titles are paper titles in todays age. Alexander has two of them. and, realistically, he should have none of them, since almost the entire boxing community felt that Kotelnik was robbed.
alexander has unified 2 titles at jr WW. khan has 1. the fact that alexander/kotelnik was close doesn't negate what alexander has done.
look, what has Alexander done? wins over Witter and Urango and a gift over Kotelnik. you honestly believe thats better than legitimate wins over Maidana, Malignaggi and Kotelnik?
beating witter, stopping urango (never been stopped even by berto), and having a close tough fight against kotelnik is better than beating kotelnik, stopping malignaggi (coming off a win over a LW), and barely escaping with a decision against maidana.
obviously you put a lot of stock in the kotelnik fights. I have considered them, but not exclusively on them.
I even believe that khan is the favorite to beat alexander if they fight, but as far as resume to this date and their performances in those fights, I have to pick alexander over khan. And I favor khan to beat alexander in a heads up match. I am not biased.
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I think it is better to say Allexander was lucky against Kotelnik. There's a difference between a close fight going one fighters away and a clear cut fight going the losers way.
Unless one fighter is clearly dominates/controls the majority of the rounds it is ****** to claim a robbery if the decision isn't what you want.
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Originally posted by Darth Sidious View PostSame coulda been said about Mayweather before he blew up, or any big name for that matter, twat.
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