The future of boxing will be the winner of Bradley vs Alexander.

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styles make fights. khan has to beat alexander first before you give him credit over alexander.


you gotta wait until after bradley/alexander to make that call. depends on how well bradley performs. In any case, khan has to fight the winner of bradley/alexander to claim 140 lbs supremacy


1) mab is old and got robbed of a fair fight. that cut was really bad and the fight should;ve been stopped.

2) khan ran for his life against maidana

3) malignaggi is featherfisted and beat up a lightweight. c'mon.


the winner of bradley/alexander is the unified champ. the best of the division is the winner of that fight vs. khan. don't start counting ur eggs yet...

• Kotelnik came from a bad loss against Amir.
  
• Kotelnik had a one-year lay-off
  
• Kotelnik reportely couldn't make the 140 limit anymore
  
• Kotelnik fought Devon at his hometown...

...and still whooped Devon's ass.

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Because you were saying you thought Kotelnik beat Alexander(I agree) so he could be a better win than Alexander, I and many others think Maidana lost to Corley, you see what I'm saying?

Ive never heard of anyone saying that Corley deserved to beat Maidana. It was a tougher fight than expected, but winning?

Are there any polls on it on this site or something?

styles make fights. khan has to beat alexander first before you give him credit over alexander.

I never gave credit to Khan for beating Alexander. Im saying Kotelnik is a better win than Alexander.

you gotta wait until after bradley/alexander to make that call. depends on how well bradley performs. In any case, khan has to fight the winner of bradley/alexander to claim 140 lbs supremacy

I agree. If Bradley wins onvincingly, I think I might have to make him #1.
At the present moment, Khan is the best.

1) mab is old and got robbed of a fair fight. that cut was really bad and the fight should;ve been stopped.

2) khan ran for his life against maidana

3) malignaggi is featherfisted and beat up a lightweight. c'mon.


the winner of bradley/alexander is the unified champ. the best of the division is the winner of that fight vs. khan. don't start counting ur eggs yet...

Lets be realistic: Alexnader lost that fight. he being champ means nothing, since Kotelnik should hold that title.
MAB is old, definitely. I dont give much credit to Khan for that win. but Khan was beating him in a shutout, I dont think Barrera would have won at that point in his career even under best circumstances.

I dont care how featherfisted Malignaggi is, hes still a top 10 fighter. the same people that give Marquez huge credit for beating Diaz wont give much credit to Malignaggi for it, and thats ridiculous.

Khan running for his life against Maidana is irrelevant, and also not true. He was on the offensive a lot, except when he was getting the **** beat out of him while rocked.
Khan won over a top fighter in the division, thats all there is to it.
Khan has beaten the better competition as of yet.

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• Kotelnik came from a bad loss against Amir.
  
• Kotelnik had a one-year lay-off
  
• Kotelnik reportely couldn't make the 140 limit anymore
  
• Kotelnik fought Devon at his hometown...

...and still whooped Devon's ass.

I'll admit devon/kotelnik was a close fight, but he didn't whoop devon's ass.

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I'll admit devon/kotelnik was a close fight, but he didn't whoop devon's ass.

your momma mustve been a great ass-whooper for you not to call Kotelnik-Alexander an ass-whooping. Where I'm friom we call it an ass-whooping.

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Lets be realistic: Alexnader lost that fight. he being champ means nothing, since Kotelnik should hold that title.

that's not realistic at all.

alexander had a tougher fight than expected against kotelnik. by nature of the fact that alexander was the heavy favorite all kotelnik had to do was not get dominated to make alexander look bad and make people claim there was an upset. as it turned out kotelnik fought alexander imho to a draw. kotelnik winning imho is not out of the question, but neither is alexander pulling out the decision. a rematch would be needed to find out who between the two are the better. that's realistic.

now, just cause khan dominated kotelnik doesn't necessarily mean he would dominate alexander. that's triangle theories.

MAB is old, definitely. I dont give much credit to Khan for that win. but Khan was beating him in a shutout, I dont think Barrera would have won at that point in his career even under best circumstances.

I also don't think mab had a chance because he was so old, but he didn't deserve a loss because of the cut. the fight should've been stopped and declared a no contest.

I dont care how featherfisted Malignaggi is, hes still a top 10 fighter. the same people that give Marquez huge credit for beating Diaz wont give much credit to Malignaggi for it, and thats ridiculous.

malignaggi poses less threat to khan than a baby. c'mon.

lols.. jmm gets credit where malignaggi doesnt because malignaggi is a jr WW where as jmm and diaz are both LWs. c'mon man.

Khan running for his life against Maidana is irrelevant, and also not true. He was on the offensive a lot, except when he was getting the **** beat out of him while rocked.

it is relevant because although alexander had a close fight with kotelnik, at no point was he in trouble, or wobbly legged, or running for his life, or holding on for dear life, or danger of getting stopped like Khan was.

Khan won over a top fighter in the division, thats all there is to it.
Khan has beaten the better competition as of yet.

hells no. wtf has maidana done at jr WW? his crowning acheivement is making ortiz quit. c'mon man. yeah, he impressively beat kotelnik, but that's one fight. that one fight doesn't ***** everything devon has done at jr WW.

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bradley is the #1 at light welterweight. doesnt matter if some of you out thier beleive its khan. khan is number 2 and devon is at number 3.

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your momma mustve been a great ass-whooper for you not to call Kotelnik-Alexander an ass-whooping. Where I'm friom we call it an ass-whooping.

where the **** u from? the suburbs?

I've seen worse ass whuppins that than.

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bradley is the #1 at light welterweight. doesnt matter if some of you out thier beleive its khan. khan is number 2 and devon is at number 3.

khan ain't #2.

devon is unifed champ. khan is just a belt holder.

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that's not realistic at all.

alexander had a tougher fight than expected against kotelnik. by nature of the fact that alexander was the heavy favorite all kotelnik had to do was not get dominated to make alexander look bad and make people claim there was an upset. as it turned out kotelnik fought alexander imho to a draw. kotelnik winning imho is not out of the question, but neither is alexander pulling out the decision. a rematch would be needed to find out who between the two are the better. that's realistic.

...Alexander lost against Kotelnik. flat out. the majority of boxing writers, fans, this website...all had Kotelnik winning. people exaggerate the dominance somewhat, but Alexander still obviously lost. he was missing so often, and I felt Kotelnik landed more shots on him AND had the more effective clean shots.

now, just cause khan dominated kotelnik doesn't necessarily mean he would dominate alexander. that's triangle theories.

thats correct. and I never said that was the case.

Im saying a win over Kotelnik is better than a win over Alexander.

I also don't think mab had a chance because he was so old, but he didn't deserve a loss because of the cut. the fight should've been stopped and declared a no contest.

you know what? fine. MAB was too old anyway, lets just ignore Khans victory over him. it doesnt make that big a difference anyway.

malignaggi poses less threat to khan than a baby. c'mon.

irrelevant. fact is, he was a quality fighter at 140lbs. Ignoring the win is like saying that Foremans win over Frazier didnt mean much, since the fight stylistically favored Foreman.

lols.. jmm gets credit where malignaggi doesnt because malignaggi is a jr WW where as jmm and diaz are both LWs. c'mon man.

going up one weight class doesnt ruin a fighter, especially in this day and age with day before weigh ins.
I dont give Malignaggi as much credit as I do Marquez, but of course I give him credit for the win. And you should as well.

it is relevant because although alexander had a close fight with kotelnik, at no point was he in trouble, or wobbly legged, or running for his life, or holding on for dear life, or danger of getting stopped like Khan was.

Khan clearly deserved to win either way. I wont ever deny it was a tough fight for him. but in the end he won(legitimately) over a top fighter in the division, that is definitely a plus.

hells no. wtf has maidana done at jr WW? his crowning acheivement is making ortiz quit. c'mon man. yeah, he impressively beat kotelnik, but that's one fight. that one fight doesn't ***** everything devon has done at jr WW.

...what has Devon done at 140? beat Urango? How is Urango better than Maidana?

and considering Kotelnik>Alexander, yes, Khans one victory over Kotelnik is better than anything Alexander has done.

Bradley you can legitimately debate. no way can you debate Alexander is more accomplished than Khan.

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Yeah and whos gonna buy tickets to see them in the future other than the people of St Louis?