Rebuttal To "Year end review of Floyd and alleged PED use..."

[MindBat]

Happy New Year Ya'll!

This is a rebuttal in reference to this thread:

//krikya360.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=447917

The original post is all well and good from a speculative point of view.

But here's the crux of the matter...

It's hilariously comical that it's only the Pacquiao fans and haters of Floyd who bring up "They should do year round drug testing" when the fact is Team Pacquiao AND Arum had no idea to bring that up BEFORE the start of, nor DURING the negotiations. More importantly, they DID NOT flat out say "No, we will not resort to Olympic style drug testing because that's a "Year Round" endeavor", again, BEFORE the start of negotiations nor DURING the negotiations.

In fact, None of the governing bodies including the commission and the drug testing authorities ever brought up the "Year Round Drug Testing" issue while the negotiations were in heated mode.

Case in point, it took this long (Since 2009) to finally say something that "just might" justify Manny's refusal to submit to "random" drug testing.

Recap:

Team Pacquiao went along with the OST plan until the excuses started flying from their side and it blew up in their face. Then they had to save face with more excuses which derailed the talks further. Just go back to 2009 for those who missed all the drama.

With that said, I'll keep reverting back to this, which definitely can't be refuted for the revealing quote:

Ariza: "I'm responsible for what Manny takes. He has no idea what he takes."

Let's also remember Arum adamantly and publicly stating on camera that "Floyd will not fight Shane Mosley because he won't fight a bigger man who can beat him."

Fact: Floyd was willing to submit to the very same "random" style drug testing that Pacquiao would be submitted to.

Fact: Floyd and Shane both underwent "random" drug testing AND they both passed them before their fight.

Refute that one with facts.

[pbftxrs316]

basically--nothing else needs to be said--it's all here for the most part-lol

good thread-

[Ryannn]

shane was desperate. he'd fight floyd or pacquiao in a ballerina outfit if either asks him to.

pacquiao doesn't need to prove his innocence to women beating racist douche bags. he's been complying with what every fighter has to go through. was willing to be tested far stricter than what anyone else has to.

floyd just won't pick up his damn phone.

he was asked to prove his innocence by the same people who baselessly accused him in the first place, by a body of floyd's choosing, and in his last loss, blood was taken from him too close to his fight against morales.

would floyd agree to be tested by the Filipino Anti-Doping Association? im pretty sure he won't.

OST is an excuse not to fight. every one can see that. those oblivious to it are obviously too ****** or just have floyd's **** shoved too deep on their throats.

[MindBat]

basically--nothing else needs to be said--it's all here for the most part-lol

good thread-

Thanks, man. It's all there in a nutshell.

[Ryannn]

also, floyd fluffers have deluded themselves that manny is now seen as a cheater by the public.

sorry to break it to you, but those who think this are in the minority.

the majority see floyd as a racist woman beating coward who doesn't want to get his ass kicked, and his crack daddy knows this when his "eye tallian stallion" was squashed like a bug.

that's when the PED rumors started. cause he can't believe how pacquiao easily beat hatton. after him talking all that smack.

he was embarrassed, made to look like a fool, lost his credibility as a trainer.

now he's lashing back with baseless accusations.

if you tell a lie long enough, people are gonna start to believe it. that's what's happening here.

[MindBat]

shane was desperate. he'd fight floyd or pacquiao in a ballerina outfit if either asks him to.

pacquiao doesn't need to prove his innocence to women beating racist douche bags. he's been complying with what every fighter has to go through. was willing to be tested far stricter than what anyone else has to.

floyd just won't pick up his damn phone.

he was asked to prove his innocence by the same people who baselessly accused him in the first place, by a body of floyd's choosing, and in his last loss, blood was taken from him too close to his fight against morales.

would floyd agree to be tested by the Filipino Anti-Doping Association? im pretty sure he won't.

OST is an excuse not to fight. every one can see that. those oblivious to it are obviously too ****** or just have floyd's **** shoved too deep on their throats.

Again, you're bringing this up AFTER the fact.

NOBODY from Team Pacquiao EVER said: "Manny doesn't need to prove jack ***** to anybody." BEFORE and DURING the negotiations.

Everybody brings up those issues AFTER it's all been said and done.

"Why bring up these issues now and not in 2009?" is the main question?

[MindBat]

also, floyd fluffers have deluded themselves that manny is now seen as a cheater by the public.

sorry to break it to you, but those who think this are in the minority.

the majority see floyd as a racist woman beating coward who doesn't want to get his ass kicked, and his crack daddy knows this when his "eye tallian stallion" was squashed like a bug.

that's when the PED rumors started. cause he can't believe how pacquiao easily beat hatton. after him talking all that smack.

he was embarrassed, made to look like a fool, lost his credibility as a trainer.

now he's lashing back with baseless accusations.

if you tell a lie long enough, people are gonna start to believe it. that's what's happening here.

Again, I repeat: NOBODY from Team Pacquiao nor even his most devoted fansopposed to the "random" drug tests were saying anything remotely close to "Year Round Drug Testing" back in 2009 when they talks were ongoing. Not a word in the media about "Year Round Drug Testing" from any of the pros in the industry to justify Manny backing out of "random" style drug testing.

It's only been the few Floyd haters not even connected to Team Pacquiao who keep bringing it up.

[sigrab jr]

also, floyd fluffers have deluded themselves that manny is now seen as a cheater by the public.

sorry to break it to you, but those who think this are in the minority.

the majority see floyd as a racist woman beating coward who doesn't want to get his ass kicked, and his crack daddy knows this when his "eye tallian stallion" was squashed like a bug.

that's when the PED rumors started. cause he can't believe how pacquiao easily beat hatton. after him talking all that smack.

he was embarrassed, made to look like a fool, lost his credibility as a trainer.

now he's lashing back with baseless accusations.

if you tell a lie long enough, people are gonna start to believe it. that's what's happening here.

shane was desperate. he'd fight floyd or pacquiao in a ballerina outfit if either asks him to.

pacquiao doesn't need to prove his innocence to women beating racist douche bags. he's been complying with what every fighter has to go through. was willing to be tested far stricter than what anyone else has to.

floyd just won't pick up his damn phone.

he was asked to prove his innocence by the same people who baselessly accused him in the first place, by a body of floyd's choosing, and in his last loss, blood was taken from him too close to his fight against morales.

would floyd agree to be tested by the Filipino Anti-Doping Association? im pretty sure he won't.

OST is an excuse not to fight. every one can see that. those oblivious to it are obviously too ****** or just have floyd's **** shoved too deep on their throats.

I can't believe what I just read.

Do you re-read what you type and really think about it?

This is ridiculously ******.

[MindBat]

I can't believe what I just read.

Do you re-read what you type and really think about it?

This is ridiculously ******.

I can only conclude the hate has blinded him in light of the facts.

[Vasyl’s dad]

Quit crying.

Real random drug testing is year round. It doesn't matter who proposed what according to you guys in regards to Olympic style drug testing,


[Floyd]"who cares that Floyd asked for better testing, hes the one in the ring and he has a right to feel his opponent is clean, it doesn't matter that it was him asking for it, what matters is that it was brought up".[/Stan]


So, it shouldn't matter who proposed what in regards to doing extra testing that isn't even required by the same commissions that Floyd has been fighting under for his entire career.

The issue with you cats is, "why wouldn't anyone want better drug testing"?


Ok, cool.

Year round random drug testing>>>>>>Olympic style drug testing knowing the period in which you are to be tested.



Facts,

Floyd is terrified of welters in their primes whether it was Margarito, Cotto or Manny now.

Facts, the sissy always had an excuse when a tough challenge was on the horizon.


Nobody from the commissions, HBO, Arum and Manny or their team even had to entertain the thought of any extra testing for one fight, but they played Floyds game, called his bluff and watched him fold and go on vacation.

The crux of the matter,

Floyds a b itch and the world knows it. There are proper ways to make changes within sports, and then there are ways to act like you're doing something for the betterment of the sport while having an ulterior motive. The ulterior motive in this case for Floyd,

act like he wants the fight, just as he has in the past, and then put up speedbumps, k-rails, tire ****es and all sorts of roadblocks to make sure it doesn't happen.

To this day, there is still no petition from Floyd, or any other fighters or promotional companies to the sanctioning bodies or governing commissions to include any type of random drug testing.

So, go ahead,

"put it on facebook, tell 'em about that, handle that, show 'em that, facebook that" "Now put that on your f ucking wall".