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    #61
    Originally posted by Iceta Lives View Post
    That's because he lets Arum run his career. Mayorga has a puncher's chance against Cotto, but that's about it the way most people look at it. I personally give him a late fight chance too if Cotto ends up gassing, but that's not really the point. The point is, there were better fighters than Mayorga available for Cotto to fight and some of Cotto's fans (I'm not saying you in particular) expect Mayorga and Yuri Foreman to be a measuring stick for how he will do against guys like Martinez, Kirkland once he knocks off the rust, Angulo when he gets his immigration deal cleaned up (which Arum running his mouth on that was in a lot of ways Cotto's strategy for ducking him), Dzinziruk, and even Berto.

    And Cotto could've fought Martinez and if he would've lost, no big deal. Could've continued his career at 154 and people still would've been interested in the rematch with Margarito. But Cotto ducked him too. I know Martinez kinda looks like a bully in a way. But if Cotto can fight someone as big as Mayorga, then why can't he fight Martinez? Because Sergio is too good, that's why.
    I dont think the words Cotto and Duck belong in the same sentence. Bob runs his career and gives him ****ty options, the dude just came off of surgery and he doesnt need to be fighting a Martinez or Berto or anybody elite right now, as much as I would like him too. Just saying I see his point in taking this Mayorga fight, but I do wish he was fighting someone better.

    He's going to fight the dude who ****d his career again, and he might lose that one, margs was no slouch vs Pac, plus he is already lined up to fight Martinez later this year, so hes not ducking as much as he is just taking an easy fight before he goes in against the top guys. If Cotto fights Martinez right now after his inactivity and surgery, that counts against him. Let the dude get some more time in w/ Steward, it makes him better equipped to fight Martinez later.

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      #62
      Originally posted by MikeRo1972 View Post
      Let's get a couple of things out of the way so people don't misinterpret my opinion because everyone knows I am a Cotto fan.

      Does Sergio beat Cotto? Yeah, prolly.
      Does Margarito beat Cotto? Yeah, maybe.

      That said, some you can't have it both ways. Either you think Cotto is ready to take on the top 154 Lbers. Or he is shot. If you claim up an down these forums that the brother is damaged goods then why in the world would he step up an take those fights? So the haters can see him take a bloody beating and scream "I told you so" all over the place? On the other hand if he is healthy and ready to really make the jump give him a god damn break. He is a natural Welter who is coming off a brutal schedule of fights and shoulder surgery to boot. Can the guy get a couple of rounds under his belt post operation before he tackles the monsters of the division? Jeez. It's not like he's claiming to be the P4P champ and cherry picking or conveniently vacationing or ducking the linear champs. Dude has never claimed to be the best. Us fans might put him on that pedestal he never did.

      Common sense tells you lately he has been wars, some won and some lost. Dude stepped up to 154 because there is no money at 147 and the only bankable fighter at 147 is Pac, he's been there, he's done that....even though that ****er made him go down to 145 for the payday. But I digress. His 1st fight at light middle was Yuri Foreman, arguably the weakest of the champs in the division-granted. But you same skeptics were all over this forum and YouTube claiming Yuri is too big, too fast, no way can Cotto win. Cotto outboxed the supposed "better" boxer. Yeah he tore his knee but you all act like he was whooping Cotto "Manny style" when he got hurt. Yuri won 1 round to that point and Cotto was timing Yuri to the point that the body shot had the man cringing.
      So now, if you all think he is shot, beat a paper champ, who fought with a lame knee, and that Cotto is simply too small for any 154 fighter..... And let's just for arguments sake say you are right...then why the **** would he take on the Big boys right now? Don't you think that a veteran, who is bigger, albeit past his prime too who swings for the fences every minute of every round, with obvious flaws, is an excellent test to see if Cotto has what it takes to fight other bigger men in this division? And he is coming off of a surgery too?

      Either you all think he is done or an over-rated bum in which case he SHOULD be fighting a fellow bum in Mayorga. Or give him his props for being a stud and fighting bums beneath him. I'd respect you all more if you took a stance instead of calling him a bum AND crying about his opposition.
      Just because I don't think he can beat the top guys at 154 doesn't mean that he should be exempt from fighting them. Cotto has got a fuckin title. He needs to fight the best and he's not doing that right now. So in my opinion he's shot and he needs to fight the best or else vacate his title.

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        #63
        What part of he is coming off of shoulder surgery do you not understand? Nevermind this is only his 2nd fight with a new teainer. He wanted JCCJr. But that ***' made excuses for not getting in the gym. Either you give him his props for being a champ and let him fight his non-mandatory or just call him a complete hype job-ducker fighting chumps. It can't be both ways unless you are simply hating. It can't be "he's a champ", he's ducking elite fighters, then turn around and say he is a hype job.

        You post Mayorga has a puncher's chance but Cotto should win. Why? If he wins you'll say he beat a bum, if he loses you'll say I told you so, hype job ran into a mule? You're a hypocrite. Get off the damn fence and decide exactly why you hate him, then stick to it, but if you get labeled a hater and it's obvious to everyone but you....just deal with it and keep it moving.

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          #64
          I'm sure he does want to fight Cotto, based on Cotto's careful selection of the least dangerous and most shot guy he could possibly face with some name value and last couple outings, based on that i'm sure Sergio does want to fight him...lmao. Sergio ****s Cotto and uses him as a stepping stone nothing more, the fight is an outrage at this point in Cotto's career.

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            #65
            Originally posted by MikeRo1972 View Post
            What part of he is coming off of shoulder surgery do you not understand? Nevermind this is only his 2nd fight with a new teainer. He wanted JCCJr. But that ***' made excuses for not getting in the gym. Either you give him his props for being a champ and let him fight his non-mandatory or just call him a complete hype job-ducker fighting chumps. It can't be both ways unless you are simply hating. It can't be "he's a champ", he's ducking elite fighters, then turn around and say he is a hype job.

            You post Mayorga has a puncher's chance but Cotto should win. Why? If he wins you'll say he beat a bum, if he loses you'll say I told you so, hype job ran into a mule? You're a hypocrite. Get off the damn fence and decide exactly why you hate him, then stick to it, but if you get labeled a hater and it's obvious to everyone but you....just deal with it and keep it moving.
            By the time Cotto gets in the ring it will have been ages since he had shoulder surgery. It's a weak excuse. He already had an easy fight against Foreman and I'm one of those people who didn't pick Foreman to win.

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              #66
              Originally posted by punchmehard View Post
              how come Sergio's fighting smaller guys this time? I don't hate the man but a guy with his skill should fight guys bigger than himself. Fight Pirog or Bute.

              On flip side I think Cotto has a big chance to win.
              Sergio's just looking to make bank while he's still got the chance. He's what, 34-35 years old, and he's not getting any better. It's all downhill physically for him at this point and he needs to get those big paydays now. I don't think he's fighting smaller guys just because he thinks they're easier match ups, it's just that the big names happen to be in those weight classes and he needs to fight the bigger names to make that money. Nobody knew who this guy was until he fought Cintron almost 2 years ago. So he's breaking into the big leagues when he's already in his 30's. He's only made some decent money in his last few fights. Before then, who knows what this guy was getting. IMO, he just wants to make as much money as possible in his next few fights and then probably retire in a few years.

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                #67
                IMHO Cotto has a big chance of winning this. If you can't KO Cotto, you can't win! And I don't think Martinez can KO Cotto bcoz he don't lunge forward like amateur PWill. Cotto will be faster than Martinez, Cotto was even faster than Pac in the first round until he got hurt and fade. Although, Margarito KOs Cotto, and Martinez beats Margarito, for me Cotto beats Martinez!

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