Shane Mosley? Seriously?

[THE REED]

Nice way to cut his post out of context dazed

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Nice way to cut his post out of context dazed

You can't have it both ways. You can't say he was old when he fought Mayweather...we know that! ****, he was old when he fought Margarito!

[Gino Ros]

A fight has to be made somewhere... Mosley is the biggest payday fight. Easy math

please show me mosley's history that validates that statement. rather than just parroting what Arum says.

[THE REED]

You can't have it both ways. You can't say he was old when he fought Mayweather...we know that! ****, he was old when he fought Margarito!

Don't exclude my post, though.

On the last page.

[AKATheMack]

Very true.


Huge is an understatement.


No, not really. I thought you said more important than who is when? Mosley was coming off a controversial defeat over an aging Oscar. Wasn't like he was considered some pound for pound king. I'd say it was a good win.

Again, timing and result. Very good win for Cotto and proved his legitimacy. But Mosley wasn't considered some pound for pounder at the time. It was more about whether Cotto could step up.


Couldn't have said it any better myself.

Excuse me if rankings and P4P dont mean much to me. Explain to me again how a win over a Mosley who struggled against DLH in 2003, becomes a great win once Mosley has turned 38? The Margarito win was a great win, but does it suddenly erase the fact Mosley struggled with sub par competition prior to the Margarito fight? I mean there is a reason Mosley wasnt some P4Per at the time Cotto beat him and thats because he didnt deserve to be there. A win over Margarito doesnt change that for me.

[radab]

Shane Mosley will be the "Token Black Guy" in Pac's resume.

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Excuse me if rankings and P4P dont mean much to me. Explain to me again how a win over a Mosley who struggled against DLH in 2003, becomes a great win once Mosley has turned 38? The Margarito win was a great win, but does it suddenly erase the fact Mosley struggled with sub par competition prior to the Margarito fight? I mean there is a reason Mosley wasnt some P4Per at the time Cotto beat him and thats because he didnt deserve to be there. A win over Margarito doesnt change that for me.

Your questions are why I say...more important than who is when. Period. Who was Margarito before he beat Cotto? Just another champ who hadn't beaten anyone elite. You see where I'm going with this.

Was Shane Mosley old? Yes (as he was for the Margarito fight).

Was Shane Mosley inactive? Yes.

Was he considered the best fighter at welter? Yes.

Was he considered one of the best fighters in the world? Yes.

Was he the biggest challenge in the division not named Manny? Yes.

Was he avoided by Team Pacquiao? Yes.

Was he perceived to be someone Floyd didn't want to fight? Yes.

Did he get his ass royally cut? Yes.

So take from that what you will. You think it's only a "decent" win? Good for you. I tend to think it meant a lot more.

[THE REED]

**** it Ill just repost it.

Is it beyond the possibility that the same Mosley we saw against Mora was a very similar Mosley that we saw against Floyd.

Is it beyond the possibility, that Shane's ranking on the p4p list was a bit inflated compared to his in-ring ability at the time?

15 months off for a 38 year old fighter... is kind of a big deal.

And, though he may of been ranked high on the p4p list, we have to look at why.

Because of a fight he had 15 months ago.


He fought Mora... just FOUR months after fighting Floyd... and that fight we got to see what Mosley really had left in 2010.

[IMDAZED]

He was the biggest threat in the division based off a performance that happened 15 months prior.

That is the key here.

Everything about Mosley was based off a fight that happened two Januaries ago.

His threat, his p4p ranking, his welterweight ranking.... everything was based off of something that happened 15 mos. ago...

Against Mora I think we saw the real 2010 Mosley...

If Mosley would of came back and looked great against Mora, or even knocked him out... then I would be inclined to agree, that Floyd had everything to do with the way Mosley looked...

But it wasn't JUST Floyd..

Mosley wasn't going to look great against Mora period. At his age, putting in the kind of training he did for Floyd and then taking that butt whipping...it was over after that. That was his last. And it wasn't good enough. It never would've been anyway. But getting to your other point, was he old and inactive? Yes. Like Floyd was past his prime and had one fight in three years. If Team Pacquiao figured Mosley was just old and inactive, they would've struck while the iron was hot. But they will now. Why?

[THE REED]

Mosley wasn't going to look great against Mora period. At his age, putting in the kind of training he did for Floyd and then taking that butt whipping...it was over after that. That was his last. And it wasn't good enough. It never would've been anyway. But getting to your other point, was he old and inactive? Yes. Like Floyd was past his prime and had one fight in three years. If Team Pacquiao figured Mosley was just old and inactive, they would've struck while the iron was hot. But they will now. Why?

First of all I don't care about Pacquiao at the moment.

You can say Floyd had one fight in 3 years.

But he did have a fight just the previous September.

In September, Floyds inactivity came to an end.

He had a fight... a fight he didn't lose a single round in.


EVERYTHING about Mosley, was based off something 15 MONTHS ago.


His p4p ranking.

His welterweight ranking

His "threat" as a fighter


Everything was based off of a fight that happened 15 months prior.


It is not that far fetched to see that Mosleys realistic in-ring ability was not on par with how highly he was ranked.