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    Originally posted by GRUSTLER View Post
    Only a non boxing fan would say that it was a lucky punch.
    I agree which is why I posted that. Also I'm no boxing guru but even I can see the improvements in Sergio's game and why he is doing what he is able to do. For a guy like Jeff, that's been in the game as long as he has been, to make those comments....really makes you scratch your head.

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      I agree with Jeff, Martinez gets hit alot more than both Pacquiao and Floyd. Martinez may be slick but he got hit alot against Williams in the first fight.

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        Originally posted by BoxingScenery View Post
        So I read the first sentence and realized your angle, so before you write another essay let me stop u right there. I never said anything about Pacquiao, try not to think about him so much. 2ndly, I still believe Pavik and Williams were made to order (but like i said, it doesn't take anything away from Martinez), and if I want to pick at em then I can find ways to do it, b/c I've seen the way they fight, I'm not pulling this **** out of my ass. Martinez is dope, so settle down Wesley. He is great, if I thought anything less than I would've spent the entirety of this post ****ting on him, relax yaself!
        No angle lil dude you're just digging in the wrong place.

        What I was doing was actually giving you a perfect example of what "tailor made" actually is by bringing up the "arguable" P4P #1 Pac, who is fighting "tailor made" Top Rank, in house made to look good fighters that bring in the most money (accoring to Arum) as if Pac is the new "Money" Mayweather all of a sudden....

        Calm down silly billy......

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          Originally posted by -Top Rank-;9663036[U
          ]For him to be a trainer and to make some of comments he has made, as well and some of the things his brothers have stated before....really makes me question there knowledge on the sport.[/U]I was joking earlier when I said he couldn't KO soft @ss Cintron, but the truth is this; If you have payed attention to the Pavlik and especially Williams II, Sergio has greatly improved his punching technique.

          Dude wasn't a KO puncher prior...but he is know. I mean please watch the fight and look at how he has improve his leverage, footplacement and punching technique. People say lucky punch but if you really watched ....that **** was gonna happen regardless because Sergio was starting to time him and was rocking Williams with shots earlier in the fight.




          They know far more than you know. Believe that.

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            Originally posted by joseph5620 View Post
            They know far more than you know. Believe that.
            They should which is the point I was making. If they have so much knowledge, why make the comments they have been making?

            It's plain as day that Martinez has ridiculous power now, as well as the improvement he has made that has lead to his recent success.

            The only explanation is he is just hating, which is why I feel he is making these statements.

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              Originally posted by victorythagr8 View Post
              Erik morrales, marquez 2x, barrera, cotto, hatton>>>>>>paul williams, pavlik which is martinez only two credible opponent. Again won't martinez call out andre ward, bute or even andre dawson, or pascal.

              Nobody outside of hopkins has a better resume then pacquaio.
              pacman has fought tons of dudes that are hall of fame surefire locks.but none have been in their prime when he faced them,not morales, even barrera,delahoya,cotto,hatton ,margarito all were coming off brutal losses fighting big names that at one time were great is not the same as fighting top guys in their prime . big big difference, to me even mayweather has more legit wins.

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                Originally posted by PAKYO View Post
                Wow, never thought you'd confirm everything what floyd really is.

                Almost all boxers are gamblers, they fight the best and they take on bigger men than themselves like Pac.

                Floyd has never done that. Floyd never gambled on his career since then. FLOYD TOOK ALL THE EASY WAY OUT and a lot got conned into it thinking he is this special. ( i know, i was one of those that got robbed)

                FLOYD CHOOSED HIS OPPONENTS WELL who is not a threat to his zero.

                FLOYD IS A FRAUD!
                Green K coming...
                at least he took on ODLH who is much bigger than him.

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                  Originally posted by flint View Post
                  jeff mayweather is wrong and right at the same time. martinez is way better the pacquiao but he does'nt come near floyd jr's skill. mayweather wether you like him or not is an complete fight to every sense of the statement.
                  lol! as usual. Pac fought skills/technically better fighters like Barrera, Morales and Marquez than Martinez. Martinez only advantage over Pac is his size. If he only about the same size with Morales, Barrera and JMM..Pac will annihilate him. Floyd fans are so obese with Floyd skills. He can have all the skills in the world but ONE can change everything. No wonder he doesn't want to fight Martinez who is calling him out.

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                    I agree with him about Paul Williams. I said in the past that Paul doesn't use his height or reach to his advantage. In my opinion, he has a poor trainer.There's no way a man that tall with that wing span should be fighting that type of style.Paul can continue a successful career if he gets a new trainer like Emanuel Stewart, who trained Thomas Hearns.Stewart is known for training tall long armed fighters. Without the change, Paul's career will never be the same.

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                      Jeff is right about everything, even the comments about "****wagon". Most fans are bandwagoners. BTW, both Paul and Sergio are B-level fighters.

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