Comments Thread For: Jeff Mayweather: Martinez Not Better Than Pacquiao, Floyd

[WESS]

I'm not alone in that "excuse". Even the fraud himself knows it was the ringpost that did it and not his fist.

Go ask him how brittle his hands is...

Either way you look at it, its embarrassing. (you didn't bet your house did you?)

Bottom line. Mayweather did it first and vs a very confident undefeated fighter. Pac fought a confused coke head attempting to get boxing lessons from Mayweather Sr.... At least say the Nate Campbell, I mean "weak" David Diaz fight was awesome! lol

If your trying to expose that Floyd has "brittle hands" you're a little behind the power curve. As that is old news. We all know Floyd's no KO artist at these weights. Only when he was younger at the lower weight classes. You should know this...

Floyd's a very precise and "technical" styled fighter with a connect rate higher than most phone providers. Especially vs "smaller" fighters.

Just like how Pac's style has been looking good by fighting VERY slow, flat footed (exposed) fighters....

[GRUSTLER]

Sorry Jeff, don't agree with you on that one. Martinez has skills
and shows that he can make adjustments. Sounds a lil bitter
coming from his side.

[PAKYO]

Either way you look at it, its embarrassing. (you didn't bet your house did you?)

Bottom line. Mayweather did it first and vs a very confident undefeated fighter. Pac fought a confused coke head attempting to get boxing lessons from Mayweather Sr.... At least say the Nate Campbell, I mean "weak" David Diaz fight was awesome! lol

If your trying to expose that Floyd has "brittle hands" you're a little behind the power curve. As that is old news. We all know Floyd's no KO artist at these weights. Only when he was younger at the lower weight classes. You should know this...

Floyd's a very precise and "technical" styled fighter with a connect rate higher than most phone providers. Especially vs "smaller" fighters.

Just like how Pac's style has been looking good by fighting VERY slow, flat footed (exposed) fighters....

I wouldn't be here if i did bet my house. So far so good, i'm still ahead despite lossing on the PWill fight.

But that KO is still due to the ringpost. Floyd can't even KO a pissladen bloated fighter he cheated on the scale...

[GRUSTLER]

For him to be a trainer and to make some of comments he has made, as well and some of the things his brothers have stated before....really makes me question there knowledge on the sport.

I was joking earlier when I said he couldn't KO soft @ss Cintron, but the truth is this; If you have payed attention to the Pavlik and especially Williams II, Sergio has greatly improved his punching technique.

Dude wasn't a KO puncher prior...but he is know. I mean please watch the fight and look at how he has improve his leverage, footplacement and punching technique. People say lucky punch but if you really watched ....that **** was gonna happen regardless because Sergio was starting to time him and was rocking Williams with shots earlier in the fight.

Only a non boxing fan would say that it was a lucky punch.

[victorythagr8]

martinez absolutey is better than fraud jr or pacroid because hes fought better competetion, frankly competetion both of those pretenders have ducked.neither dude wanted paul wiliams and williams is very much a welterweight.just look at who manny fights and look at who mayweather fights theres your answer right there to remove any doubts........

Erik morrales, marquez 2x, barrera, cotto, hatton>>>>>>paul williams, pavlik which is martinez only two credible opponent. Again won't martinez call out andre ward, bute or even andre dawson, or pascal.

Nobody outside of hopkins has a better resume then pacquaio.

[Alibata]

Pac's skill level is underrated...i'll give you that. We like to talk about Floyd's accuracy, but Manny was slicing Margo accurately with 4 shots at once and all were hitting the mark despite Tony moving his head around a bit.

The only concern is Manny still get's hit too much for a guy with that knid of footspeed.

Yeah but Manny invites punches because he wants to give the fans a fight.. Look at him walking in with his guard straight forward. He did this many times with Cotto and Margarito.. I believe Manny has the ability to be slick now but won't do it. Morales had the ability to box but it is not in the nature of these guys.

[Alibata]

Erik morrales, marquez 2x, barrera, cotto, hatton>>>>>>paul williams, pavlik which is martinez only two credible opponent. Again won't martinez call out andre ward, bute or even andre dawson, or pascal.

Nobody outside of hopkins has a better resume then pacquaio.

Even just as fighters talent wise Morales, marquez, barrera, cotto, NOT HATTON Is better than Paul Williams/Sergio Martinez. lb for lb he would get whooped by any one of those guys except hatton.

[GRUSTLER]

Erik morrales, marquez 2x, barrera, cotto, hatton>>>>>>paul williams, pavlik which is martinez only two credible opponent. Again won't martinez call out andre ward, bute or even andre dawson, or pascal.

Nobody outside of hopkins has a better resume then pacquaio.

It's already a fact that Pacquiao hasn't been
fighting the top fighters at their best since
Juan Manuel Marquez. Sergio Martinez wins
over Pavlik/Williams>>>>> Pac wins over
Diaz/Oscar/Hatton/Cotto/Clottey/Margarito.
Cotto/Margarito title fights at catchweights?

[PAKYO]

It's already a fact that Pacquiao hasn't been
fighting the top fighters at their best since
Juan Manuel Marquez. Sergio Martinez wins
over Pavlik/Williams>>>>> Pac wins over
Diaz/Oscar/Hatton/Cotto/Clottey/Margarito.
Cotto/Margarito title fights at catchweights?

Your slip is showing. You're not a boxing fan as well as those you accuse of...and that punch could be a fluke too.

We'll find out on Sergio's next fight if that is not indeed one lucky punch.

[SCEN3RY]

Man if Martinez's wins where tailor made for him than what was Pac's? Bought, signed, sealed and a guarantee win for him as soon as the deal was made well in advance by Arum? Sergio fought two different guys with different style... who has Pwill's style anyway... That dude (as Steward called him) is a "freak"..... a very good one IMO.

But let's for a second assume that sure the "bigger" and "stronger" Pavlik who was THE #1 MW at the time was made for Sergio's style and Williams "the most feared man on the planet" was the #2 MW at the time was also made for Sergio's style. Point is, he still beat THE TOP 2 guys with no issues other than a close fight vs Williams the first time. At least NO ISSUES making these fights VS real TOP threats in there weight class as they where rated 1 and 2.

Let's assume that Pac's SUPER big and tough, elite, top best of the best "selections" where the worst styled fighters that give him the toughest time and where the complete opposite of being made for his style.....

The "bigger" Clottey #5WW, coming off a loss and last "important" win was beating Judah????
Margarito who was not ranked, do I even need to mention his "accomplishments" since 2008?

Lets be real about this. Pac "selected" both these guys as they where Top Rank, IN HOUSE, "made to look good" fights. WEAK. Bottom line.

All this fighting "bigger" fighters talk and now everyone's back pedaling like little school girls chasing boys with cooties once a REAL threat that's NOT cherry picked by Team Pac wants his old TITLE BACK! What happened to the "super" Pac Manny tough guy talk from everyone. All I hear is weight this and weight that? Its VERY EASY, as long as you DON'T come in OVER 154, Pac's JMW title is ON the line for him to defend it. I don't get what the "big" deal is. The BIG BIG BIG BIG BIG BIG super human Margarito who Pac "beat", beat Martinez MANY years ago? What's the problem?

Bottom line, Martinez is exposing Arum's, Roach and Pac's selecting, and all we heard from Arum was well we can BEAT Martinez but................ lol They will use Mayweather's name to distract fans from Martinez but in the meantime Arum's really getting (non golden) Mosley spun up to (lose) fight pac because he's prime, elite, fast, and strong again. not to mention he's coming off GREAT back to back wins..... wait what? lol

So I read the first sentence and realized your angle, so before you write another essay let me stop u right there. I never said anything about Pacquiao, try not to think about him so much. 2ndly, I still believe Pavik and Williams were made to order (but like i said, it doesn't take anything away from Martinez), and if I want to pick at em then I can find ways to do it, b/c I've seen the way they fight, I'm not pulling this **** out of my ass. Martinez is dope, so settle down Wesley. He is great, if I thought anything less than I would've spent the entirety of this post ****ting on him, relax yaself!