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Originally posted by Stones! View PostMayweather fought a reasonably fresh, albeit post-prime version of Oscar De La Hoya whereas Pacquiao fought an absolute walking dead man. A ghost, a shadow of his former self - completely and utterly drained, shot and well over the hill.
The comparison is not to be made - Mayweather defeated the better, fresher version of Oscar and the reason it was competitive was because of that. The reason Pacquiao vs Oscar was a total one-sided beat-down was because it was a carefully picked fight by Arum & co and Oscar was past it.
Hatton was undefeated and still had his auror of invincibility - it's idiots like you who give Floyd no credit when it comes to this. Hatton was still the Lineal Champ at 140 but he certainly wasn't the best. Timothy Bradley had much more claim to that title and it was he who Pacquiao should have fought instead of jokers like Clottey.
Mayweather never ducked Margarito - he never admitted to ducking him as well - that is an absolute lie and that's typical from a mental midget like yourself who feeds off hyperbole tactics and exaggeration.
Pacquiao refused random blood testing, hence there is no fight. Simple as that.
Read it and weep, boy.
Hatton's most accomplished weight is no doubt 140, nobody is dis*****g that, but Mayweather defeated the prime, undefeated version of him, whether you like it or not - you can twist it however you like but it is the truth.
You hit the nail on the head mate. The Pac vs Oscar fight was strictly for business purposes and Pac has the right to go for the pay-day even if he is compromising quality in opposition - but I won't stand for idiots who claim Pac has been fighting the best at 135 and above cause it isn't true.
Floyd retiring, is just that, him making a retirement to take a break from boxing. He came back and demolished the man who KO'd Plastercheato.
Stop being a HATER.
I answered your question, mate - you are too slow to even comprehend what I was alluding to.
Bottom line is Pacquiao can make it to 140 now, if he wanted to. His intake in calories is immense just to make the welterweight limit - you must be delusional to think he still cannot fight the top guys at 140.
He didn't fight the best at 135 - fact.
He didn't fight the best at 140 - fact.
He didn't fight the best at 147 - fact.
He certainly didn't fight the best at 154.
Clottey, Cotto and Oscar were not the top fighters at 147. Plain and simple. I suggest you do a little more reading, mate. Apart from a Mayweather fight, the next most wanted fight has been a Bradley matchup at 140 and has been for sometime now.
2008-2010. WW. Who could Pacquiao of fought aside from Floyd?
And please don't reply with another "Pacquiao can fight at 140". Who the hell are you to say that a boxer should not fight at the weight division he is comfortable at?
Ok, so at 140 right now. Who could Pacquiao fight? NOBODY. Floyd and Sergio are the only people I would want to see Pacquiao fight. Why? Because they are the only guys with a chance.
Your arguments are weak. Especially when you keep saying that Pacquiao should go down in weight. If they want to fight Pacquiao, then they should skip the dehydrate process and sign the contract.
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Originally posted by Stones! View PostRespond in English, please.
Floyd Mayweather fought Ricky Hatton when he was undefeated and had immense confidence in his ability and invincibility. The reason it took him more rounds to dispense of Hatton then Pacquiao is because Mayweather is not as an explosive puncher as Pacquiao + Hatton's punch resistance had somewhat diminished. Pacquiao fought a coke-head version of Ricky who had dumped his long-time trainer, Billy Graham and tried to change his style soo late in his career, which was a terrible decision.
Pacquiao fought the worst version of Oscar. Oscar was drained, old, shot, past-prime and a walking zombie. Mayweather fought a healthy Oscar a couple years previous with a confidence boosting win in his belt.
Mayweather never ducked Cotto as he was retired by then. Shall I give you the names of fighter Pac has ducked? The list is incredibly long, but lets start with Tim Bradley or Joel Casamayor.
Mayweather handled the guy who dismanted Margarito. Margarito is a cheat and only another cheat would give him the opportunity to make more money. Pacquiao lied to himself and to all his delusional fans.
Pacquiao blew the chance to make $60 + million because he refused a few random blood tests. Pacquiao is the definition of a coward.
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Originally posted by Stones! View PostMayweather fought a reasonably fresh, albeit post-prime version of Oscar De La Hoya whereas Pacquiao fought an absolute walking dead man. A ghost, a shadow of his former self - completely and utterly drained, shot and well over the hill.
The comparison is not to be made - Mayweather defeated the better, fresher version of Oscar and the reason it was competitive was because of that. The reason Pacquiao vs Oscar was a total one-sided beat-down was because it was a carefully picked fight by Arum & co and Oscar was past it.
Hatton was undefeated and still had his auror of invincibility - it's idiots like you who give Floyd no credit when it comes to this. Hatton was still the Lineal Champ at 140 but he certainly wasn't the best. Timothy Bradley had much more claim to that title and it was he who Pacquiao should have fought instead of jokers like Clottey.
Mayweather never ducked Margarito - he never admitted to ducking him as well - that is an absolute lie and that's typical from a mental midget like yourself who feeds off hyperbole tactics and exaggeration.
Pacquiao refused random blood testing, hence there is no fight. Simple as that.
Read it and weep, boy.
Hatton's most accomplished weight is no doubt 140, nobody is dis*****g that, but Mayweather defeated the prime, undefeated version of him, whether you like it or not - you can twist it however you like but it is the truth.
You hit the nail on the head mate. The Pac vs Oscar fight was strictly for business purposes and Pac has the right to go for the pay-day even if he is compromising quality in opposition - but I won't stand for idiots who claim Pac has been fighting the best at 135 and above cause it isn't true.
Floyd retiring, is just that, him making a retirement to take a break from boxing. He came back and demolished the man who KO'd Plastercheato.
Stop being a HATER.
I answered your question, mate - you are too slow to even comprehend what I was alluding to.
Bottom line is Pacquiao can make it to 140 now, if he wanted to. His intake in calories is immense just to make the welterweight limit - you must be delusional to think he still cannot fight the top guys at 140.
He didn't fight the best at 135 - fact.
He didn't fight the best at 140 - fact.
He didn't fight the best at 147 - fact.
He certainly didn't fight the best at 154.
Clottey, Cotto and Oscar were not the top fighters at 147. Plain and simple. I suggest you do a little more reading, mate. Apart from a Mayweather fight, the next most wanted fight has been a Bradley matchup at 140 and has been for sometime now.
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Originally posted by puga View Postnobody thought pac would beat hoya, i mean nobody.......but he did by no man ever expected it....hoya was beating floyd till he gassed..
floyd ducked margo because they saw him as a bigger version of jlc who arguably beat floyd ...they still do
floyd fought 39 out of 40 mofos without needing OST...but he refused to go by commsssion standard when faced with pac......thats a clear duck right ther...
Cry for me simpleton. Cry.
Fact: Oscar De La Hoya was SHOT. PAST-PRIME. OVER THE HILL. OLD.
Mayweather never ducked Margarito and that's another fact.
Pacquiao blew 100 million dollars cause he wasn't willing to give up a test-tube of blood.
I know, mate. It must pain you to hear that. It really hurts, for your ******ed ass.
Originally posted by one-Punch View PostSorry but you never answered my question "mate".
2008-2010. WW. Who could Pacquiao of fought aside from Floyd?
And please don't reply with another "Pacquiao can fight at 140". Who the hell are you to say that a boxer should not fight at the weight division he is comfortable at?
Ok, so at 140 right now. Who could Pacquiao fight? NOBODY. Floyd and Sergio are the only people I would want to see Pacquiao fight. Why? Because they are the only guys with a chance.
Your arguments are weak. Especially when you keep saying that Pacquiao should go down in weight. If they want to fight Pacquiao, then they should skip the dehydrate process and sign the contract.
There is no need to apologise for your impotence and lack of quick witted incisive, comprehension skills.
I have clearly stated that instead of fighting Clottey or dead man Oscar De La Hoya he could have fought the top guys at 140, who add much more credibility to his resume. Pacquiao is not rooted to just the 147 pound division you absolute moron. I don't need to pick any number of welterweights he can fight besides the dead-man-walking version of Oscar - if I had to entertain your ******ity, I would name Sugar Shane Mosley, and we all know who refused the fight with Shane.
Your stance that Pacquiao cannot drop back down to 140 is the most ****** claim I've read all day. You obviously don't follow the sport much.
Pacquiao can fight Timothy Bradley if he decided to BS his way out of a fight with Mayweather again - a totally plausible match-up which will add to his legacy, no doubt.
Originally posted by straightleft View PostPathetic *****! Floyd never ducked Cotto? I checked last time Pac fought Cotto while Floyd did not! bwah ha ha!
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Originally posted by Stones! View PostCry for me simpleton. Cry.
Fact: Oscar De La Hoya was SHOT. PAST-PRIME. OVER THE HILL. OLD.
Mayweather never ducked Margarito and that's another fact.
Pacquiao blew 100 million dollars cause he wasn't willing to give up a test-tube of blood.
I know, mate. It must pain you to hear that. It really hurts, for your ******ed ass.
There is no need to apologise for your impotence and lack of quick witted incisive, comprehension skills.
I have clearly stated that instead of fighting Clottey or dead man Oscar De La Hoya he could have fought the top guys at 140, who add much more credibility to his resume. Pacquiao is not rooted to just the 147 pound division you absolute moron. I don't need to pick any number of welterweights he can fight besides the dead-man-walking version of Oscar - if I had to entertain your ******ity, I would name Sugar Shane Mosley, and we all know who refused the fight with Shane.
Your stance that Pacquiao cannot drop back down to 140 is the most ****** claim I've read all day. You obviously don't follow the sport much.
Pacquiao can fight Timothy Bradley if he decided to BS his way out of a fight with Mayweather again - a totally plausible match-up which will add to his legacy, no doubt.
I checked last time, Mayweather fought Mosley and Pacquiao ducked Mosley. Cotto is an overrated fighter who was never anything speacial. You imbecile.
While Pac is yawning he's thinking of these;
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