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    #31
    Originally posted by one-Punch View Post
    Hatton made some huge adjustments to.

    The only adjustment he made was a horizontal one

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      #32
      Raheem would box Pac's ears off.

      That's pretty much a certainty and Pac's former manager even confessed that they purposefully avoided slick fighters earlier in his career.

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        #33
        Originally posted by Stones! View Post
        Respond in English, please.



        Floyd Mayweather fought Ricky Hatton when he was undefeated and had immense confidence in his ability and invincibility. The reason it took him more rounds to dispense of Hatton then Pacquiao is because Mayweather is not as an explosive puncher as Pacquiao + Hatton's punch resistance had somewhat diminished. Pacquiao fought a coke-head version of Ricky who had dumped his long-time trainer, Billy Graham and tried to change his style soo late in his career, which was a terrible decision.

        Pacquiao fought the worst version of Oscar. Oscar was drained, old, shot, past-prime and a walking zombie. Mayweather fought a healthy Oscar a couple years previous with a confidence boosting win in his belt.

        Mayweather never ducked Cotto as he was retired by then. Shall I give you the names of fighter Pac has ducked? The list is incredibly long, but lets start with Tim Bradley or Joel Casamayor.

        Mayweather handled the guy who dismanted Margarito. Margarito is a cheat and only another cheat would give him the opportunity to make more money. Pacquiao lied to himself and to all his delusional fans.


        Pacquiao blew the chance to make $60 + million because he refused a few random blood tests. Pacquiao is the definition of a coward.
        pac and floyd both fought a past it hoya......the difference is pac wowed the audience by tkoing hoya, floyd got away by SD in a boring ass fight

        haton looked like **** at 147 prior to fighting floyd....pac beat him as a lineal champ...

        cotto was already a big name before he retired...again he did'nt fight him when everyone wanted it

        margo=ducked him plain and and simple...he even admtted it during an interview ...

        pac= even his daddy did'nt want him to fight pac...lol

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          #34
          Originally posted by Stones! View Post
          Respond in English, please.



          Floyd Mayweather fought Ricky Hatton when he was undefeated and had immense confidence in his ability and invincibility. The reason it took him more rounds to dispense of Hatton then Pacquiao is because Mayweather is not as an explosive puncher as Pacquiao + Hatton's punch resistance had somewhat diminished. Pacquiao fought a coke-head version of Ricky who had dumped his long-time trainer, Billy Graham and tried to change his style soo late in his career, which was a terrible decision.

          Pacquiao fought the worst version of Oscar. Oscar was drained, old, shot, past-prime and a walking zombie. Mayweather fought a healthy Oscar a couple years previous with a confidence boosting win in his belt.

          Mayweather never ducked Cotto as he was retired by then. Shall I give you the names of fighter Pac has ducked? The list is incredibly long, but lets start with Tim Bradley or Joel Casamayor.

          Mayweather handled the guy who dismanted Margarito. Margarito is a cheat and only another cheat would give him the opportunity to make more money. Pacquiao lied to himself and to all his delusional fans.


          Pacquiao blew the chance to make $60 + million because he refused a few random blood tests. Pacquiao is the definition of a coward.
          Floyd fought Hatton at 147 after his MOST DOMINATING performance against Collazo. Hattons best weight is 140.

          Is it really Pac's fault Oscar is old and drained. I would for a few mill.

          Floyd retiring and not mixing it up with other WWs is kind of cowardice..

          Bro, stop suckling Floyds teets. There's no milk, bro.

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            #35
            Originally posted by Stones! View Post
            Why don't we talk about the fighters he ducked at 135, or 140?

            From 2008-2010 he was definitely capable of dropping to 140.

            Team Pac flat out said "NO" to a Shane Mosley bout because they lacked the balls to take up his challenge.

            I have listed my reasons as to why I believe Clottey was a fraud match-up.
            First I would like to say, you didn't answer my question.

            Was Pacquiao capable of dropping to 140? Yes. But why should he? He wanted to fight at WW, so he did. Pacquiao is a healthy WW right now that doesn't have to dehydrate himself to fight smaller guys.

            I shouldn't have to say this, but we all know that dehydrating yourself before a fight isn't very good. It can affect your stamina greatly. When Pacquiao was fighting at 130, he still had to hydrate himself to 145 everytime.

            And when Team Pac said no to Mosley, they were trying to get a fight with Floyd. Who would you rather see Pac fight, Mosley or Floyd?

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              #36
              Originally posted by Stones! View Post
              Raheem would box Pac's ears off.

              That's pretty much a certainty and Pac's former manager even confessed that they purposefully avoided slick fighters earlier in his career.
              raheem, gainer and campbell= bums.....

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                #37
                Originally posted by Stones! View Post
                Raheem would box Pac's ears off.

                That's pretty much a certainty and Pac's former manager even confessed that they purposefully avoided slick fighters earlier in his career.
                sure he will...

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by puga View Post
                  pac and floyd both fought a past it hoya......the difference is pac wowed the audience by tkoing hoya, floyd got away by SD in a boring ass fight

                  haton looked like **** at 147 prior to fighting floyd....pac beat him as a lineal champ...

                  cotto was already a big name before he retired...again he did'nt fight him when everyone wanted it

                  margo=ducked him plain and and simple...he even admtted it during an interview ...

                  pac= even his daddy did'nt want him to fight pac...lol
                  Mayweather fought a reasonably fresh, albeit post-prime version of Oscar De La Hoya whereas Pacquiao fought an absolute walking dead man. A ghost, a shadow of his former self - completely and utterly drained, shot and well over the hill.

                  The comparison is not to be made - Mayweather defeated the better, fresher version of Oscar and the reason it was competitive was because of that. The reason Pacquiao vs Oscar was a total one-sided beat-down was because it was a carefully picked fight by Arum & co and Oscar was past it.

                  Hatton was undefeated and still had his auror of invincibility - it's idiots like you who give Floyd no credit when it comes to this. Hatton was still the Lineal Champ at 140 but he certainly wasn't the best. Timothy Bradley had much more claim to that title and it was he who Pacquiao should have fought instead of jokers like Clottey.

                  Mayweather never ducked Margarito - he never admitted to ducking him as well - that is an absolute lie and that's typical from a mental midget like yourself who feeds off hyperbole tactics and exaggeration.

                  Pacquiao refused random blood testing, hence there is no fight. Simple as that.

                  Read it and weep, boy.


                  Originally posted by clmags12 View Post
                  Floyd fought Hatton at 147 after his MOST DOMINATING performance against Collazo. Hattons best weight is 140.

                  Is it really Pac's fault Oscar is old and drained. I would for a few mill.

                  Floyd retiring and not mixing it up with other WWs is kind of cowardice..

                  Bro, stop suckling Floyds teets. There's no milk, bro.
                  Hatton's most accomplished weight is no doubt 140, nobody is dis*****g that, but Mayweather defeated the prime, undefeated version of him, whether you like it or not - you can twist it however you like but it is the truth.

                  You hit the nail on the head mate. The Pac vs Oscar fight was strictly for business purposes and Pac has the right to go for the pay-day even if he is compromising quality in opposition - but I won't stand for idiots who claim Pac has been fighting the best at 135 and above cause it isn't true.

                  Floyd retiring, is just that, him making a retirement to take a break from boxing. He came back and demolished the man who KO'd Plastercheato.

                  Stop being a HATER.

                  Originally posted by one-Punch View Post
                  First I would like to say, you didn't answer my question.

                  Was Pacquiao capable of dropping to 140? Yes. But why should he? He wanted to fight at WW, so he did. Pacquiao is a healthy WW right now that doesn't have to dehydrate himself to fight smaller guys.

                  I shouldn't have to say this, but we all know that dehydrating yourself before a fight isn't very good. It can affect your stamina greatly. When Pacquiao was fighting at 130, he still had to hydrate himself to 145 everytime.

                  And when Team Pac said no to Mosley, they were trying to get a fight with Floyd. Who would you rather see Pac fight, Mosley or Floyd?

                  I answered your question, mate - you are too slow to even comprehend what I was alluding to.

                  Bottom line is Pacquiao can make it to 140 now, if he wanted to. His intake in calories is immense just to make the welterweight limit - you must be delusional to think he still cannot fight the top guys at 140.

                  He didn't fight the best at 135 - fact.

                  He didn't fight the best at 140 - fact.

                  He didn't fight the best at 147 - fact.

                  He certainly didn't fight the best at 154.

                  Clottey, Cotto and Oscar were not the top fighters at 147. Plain and simple. I suggest you do a little more reading, mate. Apart from a Mayweather fight, the next most wanted fight has been a Bradley matchup at 140 and has been for sometime now.


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                    #39
                    Originally posted by puga View Post
                    raheem, gainer and campbell= bums.....
                    You're saying Pac ducked a bum?

                    His cowardice knows no bounds.

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                      #40
                      [QUOTE=Stones!;9641647]Mayweather fought a reasonably fresh, albeit post-prime version of Oscar De La Hoya whereas Pacquiao fought an absolute walking dead man. A ghost, a shadow of his former self - completely and utterly drained, shot and well over the hill.

                      The comparison is not to be made - Mayweather defeated the better, fresher version of Oscar and the reason it was competitive was because of that. The reason Pacquiao vs Oscar was a total one-sided beat-down was because it was a carefully picked fight by Arum & co and Oscar was past it.

                      Hatton was undefeated and still had his auror of invincibility - it's idiots like you who give Floyd no credit when it comes to this. Hatton was still the Lineal Champ at 140 but he certainly wasn't the best. Timothy Bradley had much more claim to that title and it was he who Pacquiao should have fought instead of jokers like Clottey.

                      Mayweather never ducked Margarito - he never admitted to ducking him as well - that is an absolute lie and that's typical from a mental midget like yourself who feeds off hyperbole tactics and exaggeration.

                      Pacquiao refused random blood testing, hence there is no fight. Simple as that.

                      Read it and weep, boy.



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                      nobody thought pac would beat hoya, i mean nobody.......but he did by no man ever expected it....hoya was beating floyd till he gassed..

                      floyd ducked margo because they saw him as a bigger version of jlc who arguably beat floyd ...they still do

                      floyd fought 39 out of 40 mofos without needing OST...but he refused to go by commsssion standard when faced with pac......thats a clear duck right ther...

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