Comments Thread For: HBO Pres Unsure Why Mayweather Turned Pacquiao Down

[RisAri0]

I bet the fight happens November/December of 2011

[switchsouthpaw]

He tested postitive for Andro and the steroid test can disitinguish between the two substances.

Lol which is what I told you. He took Andro (which metabolizes into Nandro, which elevates test) which was an OTC supplement, he didn't take steroids, that is the key difference by applicable law at the time.

They tested his urine sample and found that he had elevated testosterone levels. I'm simply saying anyone can get a positive test result by taking andro, which again at the time was legally sold as a supplement. He broke commission rules but not the law. Mosley broke both.

Either way get this thread back on topic. Hoodweather isn't going to fight anyone not named Anne Wolf and even then I think he'd find an out clause.

[bsinoka123]

I want to add that the article also mentioned that Mayweather turned the fight down WITHOUT REASON. If the 7 days cut-off period was the reason, anybody from the Mayweather camp could have mentioned it. This is as clear as a cloudless sky. Mayweather fans are clinging to Koncs word because they are running out of ammo. Koncs was not on the negotiating table. Ross Greenburg was.

[switchsouthpaw]

So if the structure isn't the same, and you can test positive for either or...what's your point? Seriously. He tested positive for Andro which, regardless of when it was banned, was not allowed in Indiana. Or in many other states and sports. So what's all this deflection?


Yeah, but we're talking boxing here, not the constitution. It's not like you get a 25 to life sentence for a positive test or something. But umm...ok.

Fine if you want to get technical he tested positive for a supplement (legal). Mosley tested positive for a steroid(illegal). I'm simply making that clarification and saying it can happen to anyone. I'm not even sure if boxing has a list of supplements you can take or not take, much like the NFL does. I'm not going to condemn someone for taking a supplement.

[Ray*]

I bet the fight happens November/December of 2011

I bet the fight isnt happening at all.

[IMDAZED]

Fine if you want to get technical he tested positive for a supplement. Mosley tested positive for a steroid. I'm simply making that clarification and saying it can happen to anyone. I'm not even sure if boxing has a list of supplements you can take or not take, much like the NFL does.

Whether they do or don't, he was found to be taking an illegal performance enhancing drug. End of story. Oh, and Mosley never tested positive for anything.

[SonnyboyReturns]

Lol which is what I told you. He took Andro (which metabolizes into Nandro, which elevates test) which was an OTC supplement, he didn't take steroids, that is the key difference by applicable law at the time.

They tested his urine sample and found that he had elevated testosterone levels. I'm simply saying anyone can get a positive test result by taking andro, which again at the time was legally sold as a supplement. He broke commission rules but not the law. Mosley broke both.

Either way get this thread back on topic. Hoodweather isn't going to fight anyone not named Anne Wolf and even then I think he'd find an out clause.

lol Andro is a PED which was illegal. It's so simple.

[Dempsey-Roll]

I want to add that the article also mentioned that Mayweather turned the fight down WITHOUT REASON. If the 7 days cut-off period was the reason, anybody from the Mayweather camp could have mentioned it. This is as clear as a cloudless sky. Mayweather fans are clinging to Koncs word because they are running out of ammo. Koncs was not on the negotiating table. Ross Greenburg was.

True that.
Floyd was dead silent. He was just simply "not thinking of boxing". Remember when he started hanging out with Don King? That was when Golden Boy was pressuring him to take the damn fight so they can make millions. But nope, Floyd just simply ran away and hang out with Don King.
That's when they deny that there were no negotiations taking place. They didn't want to tell the world that Floyd's a *****.

[switchsouthpaw]

Whether they do or don't, he was found to be taking an illegal performance enhancing drug. End of story. Oh, and Mosley never tested positive for anything.

I think admitting under oath to a federal grand jury all equates to the same thing. Are you using the word "illegal" in blanket fashion or applying it to commission test results, where there is a difference. I'm not lumping them all in the same basket. Fine he broke the rules, but those rules are/were extremely vague at the time. A lot of things can trigger a positive result...not all of them "illegal".

What if I take a protein powder, something you can pick up at Walmart, then a few weeks later test positive for a banned substance. They then test the powder and find out it was either intentionally ****ed or contaminated with androstendione? Would you blanket label me a steroid cheat? The reason I use that as an example, is because it happened during the winter olympics, when a skier tested positive after using the protein powder called Nitro-Tech. Point is **** happens, not everyone is out to cheat.

[IMDAZED]

I think admitting under oath to a federal grand jury all equates to the same thing. Are you using the word "illegal" in blanket fashion or applying it to commission test results, where there is a difference. I'm not lumping them all in the same basket. Fine he broke the rules, but those rules are/were extremely vague at the time. A lot of things can trigger a positive result...not all of them "illegal".

What if I take a protein powder, something you can pick up at Walmart, then a few weeks later test positive for a banned substance. They then test the powder and find out it was either intentionally ****ed or contaminated with androstendione? Would you blanket label me a steroid cheat? The reason I use that as an example, is because it happened during the winter olympics, when a skier tested positive after using the protein powder called Nitro-Tech. Point is **** happens, not everyone is out to cheat.

Yeah, that happens. Was it the case with Jones? Probably not. And Shane Mosley never tested positive for steroids. That's all I said. I think the gist of this debate is done.