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    #51
    Originally posted by switchsouthpaw View Post
    He tested positive for androstendione, which is a prohormone that once ingested metabolizes into nandrolone. PH's at the time were legal by law and found in nutritional supplements all over the country. The difference between a prohormone vs anabolic steroid, apart from one being legal and the other not legal at the time, is that PH's must go through a conversion in the body elevating testosterone. Anabolic steroids require no conversion and are banned substances by "law".

    Fernando Vargas tested positive for an anabolic agent (nandrolone) after taking a product made by VPX sports (makers of the energy drink Red Line), which again at the time was not classified as a banned substance. You can find references to Jones/Andro by simply performing a search. The reporting practices under the commission at the time simply classified his positive result as the result of using an anabolic agent, they don't make a distinction. Well androstendione is an anabolic precursor, just not illegal...or wasn't at the time. The specifics of his positive test result have always been public.
    So he didin't test positive for nandrolone.

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      #52
      I honestly don't know why Greenburg issued this statement now. No one asked him until today? It's already too late. Both fighters have already signed their own fights. Manny VS Margo, Floyd VS Justice Paul Wooten.

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        #53
        Originally posted by switchsouthpaw View Post
        Yawn......actually not looking to provoke a response. I tried having an intelligent discourse with you and as usual proved yourself as not being up to the task.

        Then again your an expert in all things "Organic Chemistry" right?
        You cannot argue intelligently with a ***** man, it's like riding a meri-go-round...

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          #54
          Originally posted by ubuntufighter View Post
          So he didin't test positive for nandrolone.
          And obviously andro was illegal at the time...since they wanted to suspend him for it. But who am I?

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            #55
            Originally posted by ubuntufighter View Post
            So he didin't test positive for nandrolone.
            There is no drug or supplement labeled nandro. Nadro is a hormone already present in small quan****** in the body. Androstendione is a precursor to Nando, which was a supplement. You take andro, you elevate nandrolone levels, which in turn elevates testosterone past natural levels, which triggers a positive test result. His testosterone levels was 7x the normal limit, which was due to his usage of an over the counter supplement. UNDERSTAND NOW?
            Last edited by switchsouthpaw; 11-02-2010, 10:47 AM.

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              #56
              Originally posted by IMDAZED View Post
              And obviously andro was illegal at the time...since they wanted to suspend him for it. But who am I?
              Andro was banned in 2004, what year did he fight Richard Hall?

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                #57
                Originally posted by switchsouthpaw View Post
                There is no drug or supplement labeled nandro. Nadro is a hormone already present in small quan****** in the body. Androstendione is a precursor to Nando, which was a supplement. You take andro, you elevate nandrolone levels, which in turn elevates testosterone past natural levels, which triggers a positive test result. UNDERSTAND NOW?
                You can absolutely purchase or buy nandro, whether it's present in your body or not. HGH is also present in the body so I guess that means there's no way you can take it externally? This post tells us nothing. Just a lot of hot air to deflect ****.

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                  #58
                  Originally posted by switchsouthpaw View Post
                  Andro was banned in 2004, what year did he fight Richard Hall?
                  Banned where?

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                    #59
                    Originally posted by IMDAZED View Post
                    And obviously andro was illegal at the time...since they wanted to suspend him for it. But who am I?
                    Yeah, I understand your logic. Therefore he cheated.

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                      #60
                      Originally posted by IMDAZED View Post
                      You can absolutely purchase or buy nandro, whether it's present in your body or not. HGH is also present in the body so I guess that means there's no way you can take it externally? This post tells us nothing. Just a lot of hot air to deflect ****.
                      Oh really because that would be considered an anabolic steroid and is illegal. Again you're an expert what "chemical" supplement or illegal is nandrolone? Go use google and then get back to us. Then when you do, you'll realize that isn't what he (Roy) was taking.

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