Pac on no cut off OST- "Yes because I want to see if that is really his reason ....."

[brick wall]

That's what I've been wondering about. If they really want to see the fight, you'd expect them to resume their fantasy prediction. Instead, all you'd read is, "where's the evidence?", "where's the link?" These *****s' version of fanaticism is strange. It's almost as if they're trying to protect a man that is being called a coward on national tv.

I now conclude that these fans of his don't really want the fight to happen. They are terrified for him. They are content in accusing Pac of proof-less nonsense in forums.

they're more interested on what advantages floyd can get than for the fight to happen. floyd is a control freak and his fans are more interested on how floyd can achieve that.

[Alibata]

Chups Marg said this in February. Manny (allegedly) accepted floyds "terms' in July. Yet you believe top rank was trying to make a Manny Floyd fight in November. So either Marg is lying or Bob/Manny are? You decide.

Happens all the time. Accepting the terms has nothing to do with signing a contract. Margarito was a contingency of Pac not making the fight with Floyd. Standard business practice. Example, if you owned a home and signed a purchase agreement it was probably contingent on being approved for a loan. Manny got denied by Floyd but approved by Marg.

[littlemac]

Pac should just agree to full testing but i understand why he didnt in the past

Floyd is tryna call the shots and control manny.. manny is a boss as well, no mafia don wants to be controled by another mafia don lol... things should be 50/50 and follow the rules already stated in boxing

What the heck are you talking about?! How is compromising your only one demand(full testing to a two week grace period for pac) while accepting the others (ring size, location, date, glove size, 10million weight penalty).

I don't see how Floyd was overboard on trying to control Pac by accepting all of Pac's demands that favored Pac and while compromissing his own demand which doesn't favor anyone, but to insure both are clean. How is that unreasonable in Floyd's behalf. Floyd even accepted a 50/50 split being the guy who generates more buys.

Pac was the one trying to control everything unreasonably. Their was no compromising in Pac's side.

[brick wall]

This is the usual cop out crap from Manny fans that can't come up with a valid reason when people question why Bob would promise Marg a Pac fight (in November) in february and then tell the world he was trying to make a Floyd Pac fight for the same month.

This post would be make sense if floyd hadn't agreed to all Manny's terms for weight, ring, gloves in December. Oh yeah because he asked for OST that meant he really didn't want ti. GTFO!

big dung, why do you keep on bringing up bob arum in the discussion? this is about pac and his words...that is more important than what arum said because it's pac who will face floyd in the ring. and besides arum is the biggest liar to you *****s so why even use his words.

[The Big Dunn]

he said anytime, anyday. you guys are all negative. if you want the fight to happen this should be a welcome news not a venue for your nuthugging skills.

Its always us. When anyone points out manny's bull**** its them who has the problem. Wow! Manny can speak clear english any other time except when it comes to what terms he accepted and why he wont take tests.

[ALG United]

twako you and I know there was no possibility of a November fight between floyd and manny because Bob promised Marg (and Valero) a Nov fight with Pac.

When manny says
"I accept random OST" or "I accept a 14 day cutoff" or details exactly what he accepted the same way he did when he turned it down I will listen.

What are you talking about marg and valero, valero's dead already, and manny was talking about the july negotiation, the one floyd and his camp was denying to have happened. And are we all lawyers here now that manny has to utter the exact same words that floyd has given before. We all know that manny is not american and doesn't speak in english as well as most of you does, so when he was asked for that question, it is easier for manny just to say EVERYTHING than to elaborate every little details to the press, and if you ask a journalist, the word EVERYTHING has more impact to the fans!!!

[The Big Dunn]

Happens all the time. Accepting the terms has nothing to do with signing a contract. Margarito was a contingency of Pac not making the fight with Floyd. Standard business practice. Example, if you owned a home and signed a purchase agreement it was probably contingent on being approved for a loan. Manny got denied by Floyd but approved by Marg.

ALibata this would nake sense except by your own admission he promised the same thing to Valero. While you disagree, I see this as Bob making sure he milks everything he can in house before exposing Manny to a style that (I think we can agree) is not best suited for him.

even though Manny (and Bob) will make huge money, there is great potential for Manny to look worse than he did in his fights with JMM. SInce Manny is transitioning to his career outside the ring, it makes sense to delay this fight as much as possible.

[Twako]

twako you and I know there was no possibility of a November fight between floyd and manny because Bob promised Marg (and Valero) a Nov fight with Pac.

When manny says
"I accept random OST" or "I accept a 14 day cutoff" or details exactly what he accepted the same way he did when he turned it down I will listen.

no its only you know, not me. the marg fight was talked about AFTER the first negotiations fell thru. even if that was promised, how the hell can bob be sure marg will get his license back? and you're basing your whole argument w/ an arum promise? you're taking his word as gospel now? this same man who you consistently call a liar? LOL gtfoh.

you must be playing dumb if you think the reporter was asking about the urine test did you even listen to the interview and the questions asked of manny regarding the drug test?

[littlemac]

Until he signs his words don't mean ****. Didn't Roach said Pac had agreed to full testing so that when would reject it later when it was time to sign.

Even in the last so called negoitations Bob said Manny had agreed on the two week cut off but Manny had not signed the proposal WTF.....

Words from the Pac and his team don't mean anything.

[The Big Dunn]

no its only you know, not me. the marg fight was talked about AFTER the first negotiations fell thru. even if that was promised, how the hell can bob be sure marg will get his license back? and you're basing your whole argument w/ an arum promise? you're taking his word as gospel now? this same man who you consistently call a liar? LOL gtfoh.

you must be playing dumb if you think the reporter was asking about the urine test did you even listen to the interview and the questions asked of manny regarding the drug test?

No one is saying anything is gospel. I'm basing my point on the promise and the fact that the pac marg fight is actually happening, just as Marg said it would. Does that in any way make you think maybe marg was telling the truth and bob/manny werre not? If not so be it.

how the hell can bob be sure marg will get his license back? Come on man in Texas. please.