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Doug Fischer: "Wlad Klitschko would've been dangerous to ANYBODY in history even Ali"

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    Also, Prime Ali clinched very little.

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      Originally posted by TRAV1$ View Post
      Also, Prime Ali clinched very little.
      Its funny they talk about the Ali who lost to Spinks, bruishing aside that Ali had Parkinsons by that point, and shouldn't have been able to work out ina gym let alone fight tops HW's and win at thast point.

      Prime Ali was the flash, and could knockout hard nosed fighters.

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        Originally posted by TRAV1$ View Post
        Also, Prime Ali clinched very little.
        Ali prime also got floored by 185 lbs guys. Wlad would knock him out of the ring.

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          Someone explain to me how Wlad's slow, methodical jab would remotely trouble the Ali that was on the move every second of the first Liston fight
          If he doesn't land that, he doesn't land anything
          He would slip it, and catch him with counter rights all night
          And what does Wlad have in his arsenal to worry Ali with when he moves inside?
          Nothing.
          Last edited by TRAV1$; 08-23-2010, 01:41 PM.

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            Originally posted by TRAV1$ View Post
            Also, Prime Ali clinched very little.
            yea my dad always talked about this. said he would never ever clinch. the rare time you would see him do that. just dance around and look pretty.


            but near the end of his career he said he would clinch more and more

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              Didn't Dougie also pick Shane to beat Money?

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                Originally posted by TRAV1$ View Post
                Someone explain to me how Wlad's slow, methodical jab would remotely trouble the Ali that was on the move every second of the first Liston fight
                If he doesn't land that, he doesn't land anything
                He would slip it, and catch him with counter rights all night
                And what does Wlad have in his arsenal to worry Ali with when he moves inside?
                Nothing.
                I stopped reading when you called the most powerful jab in the history of the sport "slow and methodical". Not to mention how Wlad's best punch is his left hook, the same type of Hook that had Ali stagger to his corner, and take illegal substances and rip his glove when a 185 lber threw it. Imagine when a machine like Wlad throws it...

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                  wlad beat ali? dont think so. how can he beat ali when all wlad has is a JAB JAB JAB JAB JAB JAB JAB JAB

                  ali had a jab and a whole arsenol of tricks up his sleeves. he didnt back down from NOBODY!

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                    Originally posted by Pirao View Post
                    When did Wlad fight Lewis?

                    Lewis>>>Holyfield, BTW.
                    hows that lewis won first then lost the 2nd imo they werent peak fights anyway holyfield beats both brothers

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                      the only reason ali lost to frazier that first time is becuz ali was coming off a 3 year lay-off becuz he was barred from fighting. had only 2 tune ups and should have had 1-2 more then fight the heavyweight champ. he wasnt ready for him at the time man. the lay off was brutal for him

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