Doug Fischer: "Whitaker & JCC are the best of the last two decades, NOT Floyd & Pac"

[grayfist]

Dougie also picked Juan Diaz over Marquez in the rematch. I dunno about this.

But having seen a bit of Jacobs in the undercard of De La Hoya-Forbes and having been thus given a glimpse of what his left can do coupled with my recollection that none of Dmitry's stoppages were authored by a single punch but an accumulation, I tend to lean towards Fisher's pick, i.e., Jacobs. But, a little caveat: Pirog is not your usual Eastern European fighter. He can shuffle those shoes rather well and he has head/upper body movement.

[EMACULATE]

Whitaker I agree with. JCC was an overrated fighter who got alot of gift decisions and fought alot of cab drivers. He clearly never beat whitaker or taylor, because he was slow and rather prdictable. Everytime he stepped up to the plate he was badly outclassed. JCC is on alot of P4P list above whitaker and thats nonsense. Whitaker is one of the top five boxers all time bar none. Defense unmatched in his prime, southpaw who could fight going backwards and had a great jab with great stamina and a great chin. Hard to beat that even if someone wouldve question his hand speed which was under rated IMO. I would put Jones and Mayweather over JCC AND EVEN HOPKINS. Watch JCC fight over rated.

[bojangles1987]

I can't believe I'm alone in saying Chavez isn't as good as the other three.

We saw what happened when he fought Whitaker, so you can't say he was as good as Sweet Pea.

Floyd has enough similarities where he would do probably the same thing.

Pac has more natural talent, and at this point more skills, and his accomplishments far outweigh Chavez's.

The only advantage Chavez would have against any of these three in a fantasy fight is his chin and body punching, but the speed of these three would kill him, just like Whitaker's did.

I'm not disrespecting how great a fighter Chavez was, but this argument should be Sweet Pea and Roy Jones, who belongs in this conversation before Chavez does.

[TRAV1$]

Whitaker & Manny for me.

[grayfist]

Dougie also picked Juan Diaz over Marquez in the rematch. I dunno about this.

But having seen a bit of Jacobs in the undercard of De La Hoya-Forbes and having been thus given a glimpse of what his left can do coupled with my recollection that none of Dmitry's stoppages were authored by a single punch but an accumulation, I tend to lean towards Fischer's pick, i.e., Jacobs. But, a little caveat: Pirog is not your usual Eastern European fighter. He can shuffle those shoes rather well and he has head/upper body movement.

Dimtry taught me two lessons today:

1. Do not rely too much on records. It doesn't mean that because he did not have a single punch knock out before, he could never have any;

2. Do not be easily swayed by experts' opinions.

Serves me right.

Edit: Just in case you didn't notice, Dougie is 0 for 2. Of course this does not have anything to do with his take that is the heading of this thread. Does it?

[Heeb]

Whitaker and Chavez are better than Pac and Floyd, I would agree.

[Ido]

Horse Chin Chavez would give anyone a good fight. Rarely do you find a fighter with his work rate that would fight the whole 3 minues for 12 rounds.