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    Originally posted by naughtyboy100 View Post
    Bob Arum in my opinon, would never put Manny in the ring with Paul Williams. First, Arum wants to keep all the money in-house. Second, Arum knows that he must protect Pac from in real threats. My reason for saying this is not that Pac has not taken on a few tough fights but to question maybe just how tough these fights really were. Ok, Ricky Hatton was hurt badly in his tune up fight against Juan Lazcano and was coming off of a knockout loss to Mayweather. He only looked OK in the fight with feather fisted Paulie Malignaggi and then fights Pac! Pac was not in any real danger here! Ok, Oscar De La Hoya has been nothing more than a part time fighter since 2002. He left the 147lbs weight division over 9 years ago because he struggled to make the weight. He agreed to fight Pac not at his regular weight or comfortable weight of 154lbs or even 160lbs were he fought B-hop but all the way back down at 147lbs. Freddie Roach use to train Oscar at 154lbs and he knew how hard it had become for Oscar to even make that weight so he jumped on a fight with Oscar at 147lbs! Why? He knew that Oscar would kill himself physically just to make the weight and not have any energy to fight Pac come fight night. So again, Pac was not in any real danger here! Ok, Miguel Cotto was not just coming off of one but three fights were he took trumendous punishment! Zab Judah, Margarito and Clottey! So mentally as well as physically he was in no shape to be fighting Pac but he did. On top of that, he came down to a catch weight of 145lbs. People seem to also not realize how much the impact of not having his Uncle/Trainer Evangelista Cotto in his corner, for the first time in his professional career for the biggest fight of his career would effect his confidence! LOOK back at Miguel's face and demeanor for the walk-in of the Pac fight and compare it to the walk-ins of all his other fights. Its a totally different man! Period! Think, Pac in a fight with Mayweather and No Freddie Roach in the corner! So again, Pac was facing a little danger but not to the magnitude it appeared! Everyone knows that the Clottey fight was at best Very Questionable! Here you have Clottey who was able to hit Manny easily and refused to even try to in the BiGGest fight of his career! Not to mention Clottey and Manny have the same promoter, Mr. Bob Arum. I smell FIX! I've never seen the Joshua Clottey that fought in the Pacquiao fight! I wonder WHY! OK finally Paul Williams! Paul is not like any of these other forementioned fighters that Pac has faced. He is not promoted by Bob Arum. He is not coming off of any bad beatings or loses. 147lbs is his natural weight so he would be fighting at the top of his game. Lastly and I feel most notable is the fact that he fights behind a great GAB! The best way to neutralize speed is with your GAB! BOXING 101! ADD the fact that he is 6'3 and has an arm span of 78 inches from fist to fist and fights with the same energy level as the Pac-Man and there u have it! A real and true threat! So with all that said, Bob Arum want make that fight! Arum aint Crazy!
    Manny would never fight Paul Williams, both Williams and Goosen are idiots.

    Manny would only consider 154 if there was a title at stake, and with the right choice of opponent. So why would he fight somebody irrelevant at 147, who probably belongs at 160/168?

    There is more chance of him fighting Bradley if it boils down to a money-fight.

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      This is just wrong.

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        Originally posted by Sugar Q View Post
        But what I'm trying to break down to you is in EVERYTHING there's protocol my dude. You don't just get to the top dude you position yourself to. A boxing fan without understanding how the business works is a ignorant boxing fan because EVERYTHING my dude stems from great business. Amateur fighters fight for the love and the glory but pro fighters are prizefighters and that's real talk all day.
        so manny turning down williams is perfectly normal because he cant draw ****...

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          Paul 'Skeletor' Williams needs to stop starvin' himself down to 147 - 154 and fight someone his size @ Light Heavyweight. Mofo is just lookin' for a big payday in which he doesn't deserve and he brings nothing to the table.

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            Originally posted by Tweezy316 View Post
            It's funny how these guys say that P. Will has to make 147 before calling guys at 147 out. But de la hoya hadn't made 147 in years and yet he got the fight with Pacquiao right? Also they want williams to fight martinez again saying that there is unfinished business but yet Pac didn't rematch Marquez now did he? Just a lot of double standards. this is proof that these *******s don't believe what they say about their hero. They say he's the GOAT and as soon as an opponent is mentioned that has a chance to beat Pac we get every excuse in the book as to why Pac shouldn't fight them. Whether it's their too tall, not a draw, nothing for pac to gain, just anything to keep pac's winning streak going. Pretty pathetic. They would rather see pac-cotto 2 yeah talk about unfinished business lol. What needs to be finished? Why do you wanna see that again?
            because dela hoya is the cash cow you ****ing idiot... can you say the same of p will? now go suck on mayweather's balls...dumb ass trying to compare dela hoya with p will...

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              Originally posted by Sugar Q View Post
              Al Haymon makes a PBF/Pwillz fight very easy to make but Floyd can legitimately tell Paul to do this and that and we'll fight. Manny can not especially coming off a string of 5 consecutive previously defeated fighters and currently calling for 2 more (one w/o a license) get real dude. Manny is a hype machine. Mad props to Top Rank for the great job they've done cause they damn sure have you and others convinced but 5 previously defeated fighters in a row? I challenge you to name me another P4P#1 with 5 consecutive wins against fighters coming off huge losses and in this case this is Pac's claim to being P4P#1.
              i say this guy is seriously making up stats to discredit manny...wtf! what kind of statistic is winning 5 consecutive against previously undefeated fighters? lolz

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                these *****s are trying to cover up the FACT that both parties negotiators/representatives have made an agreement that floyd wont sign...

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                  Originally posted by RSBonos View Post
                  Goosen is a delusional clown, there is no way they will ever get the Pac fight. Just admit that you don't want to fight Martinez and move on...
                  Paul has been waiting to knock Martinez out ever since the first fight. If Martinez didn't run so much in that first fight it wouldn't have even been close. Martinez would have gotten knocked out just like Quintana and everybody knows it.

                  I hate runners like Quintana and Martinez. Lateral movement is fine but running all night is what cowards do. That's why I like watchin Floyd's fights now, he doesn't run anymore. Floyd is a straight-up stalker in the ring now.
                  lol

                  Anyhow...

                  Paul would get a lot more knock outs if he stop chasing these punks around the ring. In the second fight for example Paul didn't chase Quintana he forced Quintana to fight like a man instead. And that's why Quintana got knocked out. When Paul stop chasing Quintana had no other choice but to fight.

                  So...

                  Stop lying to yourself. Martinez don't won't no part of Paul Williams and everybody knows it. I hate liars and that's what you are. You're trying to make it sound like Paul is ducking Martinez punkazz. Please.. nothing could be further from the truth and everybody knows it. So stop lying to YOURSELF.

                  Martinez is just like all the other fighters that fight Paul W. They run run run run and run to keep from getting knocked out.

                  Everybody runs from Paul and Pacquiao's lil azz wouldn't be any different.

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                    Williams is floyding la maravilla?

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                      My advice: Pacman better retire before he get's his fake-azz image destroyed.

                      Folks got short memories around here. I remember when Pacquiao got a beating from Eric Morrales. Anybody with any sense knows in their heart that Pacquiao can't beat either Floyd Mayweather or Paul Williams.

                      Why should a lil punk like Pacquiao (who's been beaten by several fighters) get even money to fight Floyd?

                      Don't say because he beat Cotto cause Margarito beat the fight otta Cotto long time ago. Bottom line:

                      Floyd will embarrass Pacwoman in the ring and Paul Williams will destroy her.

                      Believe that!

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