Comments Thread For: Paul Williams Targets Manny Pacquiao: Martinez Can Wait

[indystress]

Already told you the difference, Paul williams can still make 147 (Probably drained) but it has been known he fights between 147-160, He would come down to 147 if the big names like Mayweather,Pac,cotto etc wants it.

Weight restriction and weight draining yourself are two different thing.

your "weight restriction" that cotto faced against first pac fight is not what most anti-pac people called it....they called it weight draining. and they will call it the same way (catchweight = weight draining) for a rematch even though it would mean cotto would only have to drop about 2lbs from his official weighin of 153 against yuri...

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As previously reported on krikya360.com, Ross Greenburg, president of HBO Sports, is pushing to stage an October rematch between Paul Williams and WBC middleweight champion Sergio Martinez. They both put in a fight-of-the-year effort last December. Williams walked away with the win by way of a close majority decision. [Click Here To Read More]

Will you just **** off Williams !!

A 6'3" beanpole who's natural weight is 147

**** off Williams, and settle on a division where you are not 9 inches taller than all of your opponents.

Oh and btw..... Serg tapped your ass ^^

[gwildcat77]

All Roads Leads to Manny Pacquiao

COTTO gunning for PACQUIAO, MARGARITO gunning for PACQUIAO, JUAN MANUAL MARQUEZ gunning for PACQUIAO, BRADLEY gunning for PACQUIAO, and PAUL WILLIAMS. These are all MAN who don't stop striving. If FLOYD wasn't a ***** he would have accept the PAC fight already.

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Looks like the most feared man in boxing supposely is ducking Martinez and picking on midgets now huh? P.Will better fight Martinez or i guess he's scared his ass will get handed to him again..

It's a fkn joke !!

Only yesterday, I am arguing with a guy that thinks Bradley is ducking Alexander, by going up in weight to fight Abregu to try and land a fight with Mayweather.

[size15shoe]

I find it amazing how no one got mad at Martinez for NOT taking the immediate rematch with Williams to "explore other options" in the words of his manager. As a matter of fact I remember Martinez's manager saying, in his own words, that " Sergio and Paul are the two best middleweights, let's explore other options before they get in the ring again".

Martinez at one point was considered a strong candidate for a $$ Mayweather fight and NO ONE had a problem with that. But because Paul is 6'3 he can't drop weight and do the SAME EXACT THING Martinez would have done had Mayweather accepted his challenge?? GTFOH.. And people really need to stop throwinf Paul up in weight just because of his height. Celestino Caballero is 6 feet tall. Hell Ali Funeka is damn near eye lever with Paul Williams. Based on some of you guy's logic, Funeka should at LEAST be a middleweight and Caballero is a welterweight at minimum. Height means nothing

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I find it amazing how no one got mad at Martinez for NOT taking the immediate rematch with Williams to "explore other options" in the words of his manager. As a matter of fact I remember Martinez's manager saying, in his own words, that " Sergio and Paul are the two best middleweights, let's explore other options before they get in the ring again".

Martinez at one point was considered a strong candidate for a $$ Mayweather fight and NO ONE had a problem with that. But because Paul is 6'3 he can't drop weight and do the SAME EXACT THING Martinez would have done had Mayweather accepted his challenge?? GTFOH.. And people really need to stop throwinf Paul up in weight just because of his height. Celestino Caballero is 6 feet tall. Hell Ali Funeka is damn near eye lever with Paul Williams. Based on some of you guy's logic, Funeka should at LEAST be a middleweight and Caballero is a welterweight at minimum. Height means nothing

Excellent post. Williams wanted the rematch and maintained this position even as Martinez. Hell, he was ringside. I don't think anything comes from this Pacquiao talk, however. It's just not happening. It'll be Martinez in October.

[trk]

Pacquiao would embarrass Paul Williams. It's never going to happen though, since Arum knows he can make more money If Pacquiao fights Cotto again instead.

[naughtyboy100]

Arum aint Crazy!

Bob Arum in my opinon, would never put Manny in the ring with Paul Williams. First, Arum wants to keep all the money in-house. Second, Arum knows that he must protect Pac from in real threats. My reason for saying this is not that Pac has not taken on a few tough fights but to question maybe just how tough these fights really were. Ok, Ricky Hatton was hurt badly in his tune up fight against Juan Lazcano and was coming off of a knockout loss to Mayweather. He only looked OK in the fight with feather fisted Paulie Malignaggi and then fights Pac! Pac was not in any real danger here! Ok, Oscar De La Hoya has been nothing more than a part time fighter since 2002. He left the 147lbs weight division over 9 years ago because he struggled to make the weight. He agreed to fight Pac not at his regular weight or comfortable weight of 154lbs or even 160lbs were he fought B-hop but all the way back down at 147lbs. Freddie Roach use to train Oscar at 154lbs and he knew how hard it had become for Oscar to even make that weight so he jumped on a fight with Oscar at 147lbs! Why? He knew that Oscar would kill himself physically just to make the weight and not have any energy to fight Pac come fight night. So again, Pac was not in any real danger here! Ok, Miguel Cotto was not just coming off of one but three fights were he took trumendous punishment! Zab Judah, Margarito and Clottey! So mentally as well as physically he was in no shape to be fighting Pac but he did. On top of that, he came down to a catch weight of 145lbs. People seem to also not realize how much the impact of not having his Uncle/Trainer Evangelista Cotto in his corner, for the first time in his professional career for the biggest fight of his career would effect his confidence! LOOK back at Miguel's face and demeanor for the walk-in of the Pac fight and compare it to the walk-ins of all his other fights. Its a totally different man! Period! Think, Pac in a fight with Mayweather and No Freddie Roach in the corner! So again, Pac was facing a little danger but not to the magnitude it appeared! Everyone knows that the Clottey fight was at best Very Questionable! Here you have Clottey who was able to hit Manny easily and refused to even try to in the BiGGest fight of his career! Not to mention Clottey and Manny have the same promoter, Mr. Bob Arum. I smell FIX! I've never seen the Joshua Clottey that fought in the Pacquiao fight! I wonder WHY! OK finally Paul Williams! Paul is not like any of these other forementioned fighters that Pac has faced. He is not promoted by Bob Arum. He is not coming off of any bad beatings or loses. 147lbs is his natural weight so he would be fighting at the top of his game. Lastly and I feel most notable is the fact that he fights behind a great GAB! The best way to neutralize speed is with your GAB! BOXING 101! ADD the fact that he is 6'3 and has an arm span of 78 inches from fist to fist and fights with the same energy level as the Pac-Man and there u have it! A real and true threat! So with all that said, Bob Arum want make that fight! Arum aint Crazy!

[paulf]

Paul got schooled by Leapfrog ****ing Cintron before he took his legendary dive, and now he thinks he's due a Pacquiao fight??

Williams is a moron.

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I find it amazing how no one got mad at Martinez for NOT taking the immediate rematch with Williams to "explore other options" in the words of his manager. As a matter of fact I remember Martinez's manager saying, in his own words, that " Sergio and Paul are the two best middleweights, let's explore other options before they get in the ring again".

Martinez at one point was considered a strong candidate for a $$ Mayweather fight and NO ONE had a problem with that. But because Paul is 6'3 he can't drop weight and do the SAME EXACT THING Martinez would have done had Mayweather accepted his challenge?? GTFOH.. And people really need to stop throwinf Paul up in weight just because of his height. Celestino Caballero is 6 feet tall. Hell Ali Funeka is damn near eye lever with Paul Williams. Based on some of you guy's logic, Funeka should at LEAST be a middleweight and Caballero is a welterweight at minimum. Height means nothing

Hold on, you are absolutely correct when you say that Martinez declined an immediate rematch with Williams..... but when you say "explore other options"..... you cannot be insinuating that Martinez ducked Williams to fight Pavlik for the undisputed middleweight crown?

I don't give a **** that Williams is not currently attempting to fight Martinez, because he already beat him. Although it is surprising that Williams does not want a piece of that Lineal Title. And as soon as Mayweather sorts his **** out, don't be too surprised when you see Sergio lookin for Paul

I am talking about Williams removing his lanky unwanted asss from the welterweight division, where he has never been taken seriously anyways.

" Height means nothing "

Bull****. That is knieve.

Boxing is about weight divisions, and superior technical skills and/or a combination of intangibles can more than compensate for a height disadvantage..... but don't try to tell me that a guy with Williams style compounded with a 9 inch height + reach advantage, doesnt sound like he has an unfair advantage to you.

Williams became a bit of a joke to me a few months back when he called out Hopkins at 170 then 2-3 days later he called out Pac at 147.