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    #61
    Originally posted by carts View Post
    im being sarcastic dude...
    Sorry. My bad!

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      #62
      Originally posted by AFighter4U View Post
      That is a surprisingly common misconception. The fact that he has numerous tattoos attest to him having no problem with needles. Its just that he doesn't want blood taken from him so close to a fight. That is a big difference that apparently a number of people cannot accept.
      well they dont take pac's word. pac scared of needles actually came from the mayweathers mouth.

      can anyone, show us a link where pac himself said it?

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        #63
        Originally posted by AFighter4U View Post
        You know, i certainly hope that is true, but just in case, may i ask for a link showing proof that this urine test can in fact detect blood doping?
        here...
        How Are Blood Dopers Busted?
        Athletes who use blood doping to increase their performance will have a higher red blood cell density. This can be detected by testing the athlete's levels of hemoglobin (protein which causes blood to be the red color we see.) EPO and other blood doping drugs can be detected in an athlete's system by urine tests. It's believed there are some blood doping drugs out there that drug testers don't know about which some athletes are using.



        if ac uses this style of doping he might have been dead right now cause = heart attack.

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          #64
          Originally posted by led View Post
          well they dont take pac's word. pac scared of needles actually came from the mayweathers mouth.

          can anyone, show us a link where pac himself said it?
          it is arum i think who said it.

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            #65
            Originally posted by No Ceilings View Post
            C. How is blood doping and Erythropoietin commonly used?
            Typically, blood doping involves removing 2 to 4 units (900-1800ml) of blood from an individual. The RBCs are spun and separated from plasma, then stored in glycerol. After a 2-3 month time delay, which allows for restoration of RBC in the athlete, and about 3-5 days before competition, the RBC are "washed" and reinfused. Because of the storage in glycerol, the RBC are well preserved. Donor blood can be used, but risk is increased due to the possibility of blood borne pathogens. The benefit of donor blood is that the individual does not have to go through the period of regeneration of their own RBCs.


            3-5 days before performance. please shut the **** up about it not being effective 2 weeks out.





            Stop ducking his post.

            From Tygart (USADA):

            Q: What about blood testing? Could I mask it then?

            A: "For transfusions, the 14 days is not going to give you much concern. The evidence of the transfusion will stay in your system longer than the 14 days. But the human growth hormone, for sure not."




            Q: One other thing I wanted to touch base with you on -- when the Mayweather-Pacquiao discussions finally fell apart at the beginning of the month, it came down to a 10-day differential; Mayweather bent to 'I'll agree to 14 days prior to the event when there will be no blood testing,' and Pacquiao wouldn't go later than 24 days. Even if Mayweather had yielded to 24 days, what can an athlete do in 24 days? I mean, if you're clean 24 days before the fight, what can you do in the next 24 days that would have any impact on the fight whatsoever?

            A: "The human growth hormone for sure, levels of testosterone, and other designer steroids. Sounds like you've got some information -- I'm not agreeing factually that was the difference, and I'm not disagreeing. But if that's the case, the other piece is that, prior to that 14-day or 24-day blackout period, what system was in place? Were you just using the Nevada, or the state of California, system? If that's the case, I'm not worried about the 14-day or the 24-day blackout period, I'm worried about the rest of it. If someone's telling you that's where it fell apart, I think you've got to add the follow-up, 'Well, what kind of testing was going to happen before the 14-day or the 24-day blackout period?' The 14-day period, I'm a lot less concerned about that than what you're doing in the two months before that 14-day period."


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              #66
              yeah the one floyd sr is referring lol

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                #67
                Originally posted by AFighter4U View Post
                You know, i certainly hope that is true, but just in case, may i ask for a link showing proof that this urine test can in fact detect blood doping?
                When was a test to detect EPO implemented?

                A test for EPO was introduced at the 2000 Summer Olympic Games in Sydney (Australia). The test, validated by the International Olympic Committee (IOC), was based on the blood and urine matrix. A blood screening was performed first, and a urine test was then used to confirm possible use of EPO.

                In June 2003, WADA’s Executive Committee accepted the results of an independent report stating that urine tests alone can be used to detect the presence of recombinant EPO. This report, requested by WADA’s stakeholders and commissioned by the Agency to evaluate the validity of urinary and blood tests for detecting the presence of recombinant EPO, concluded that urinary testing is the only scientifically validated method for direct detection of recombinant EPO. This report also recommended that urine testing be used in conjunction with blood screening for a variety of reasons, including the cost savings of performing blood screening prior to testing urine. Some international sports federations still use both urine and blood matrix for the detection of EPO. Recently, the urine test was adapted to blood to perform detection of some new erythropoiesis stimulating agents.


                Last edited by | THE KING |; 07-09-2010, 01:11 AM.

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                  #68
                  meaning it can be beneficial but it can be traced by urine tests w/c is what nsac do...

                  uh oh someone GOT OWNED!!! hahahaha

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                    #69
                    Originally posted by Gorilla Cats View Post
                    C. How is blood doping and Erythropoietin commonly used?
                    Typically, blood doping involves removing 2 to 4 units (900-1800ml) of blood from an individual. The RBCs are spun and separated from plasma, then stored in glycerol. After a 2-3 month time delay, which allows for restoration of RBC in the athlete, and about 3-5 days before competition, the RBC are "washed" and reinfused. Because of the storage in glycerol, the RBC are well preserved. Donor blood can be used, but risk is increased due to the possibility of blood borne pathogens. The benefit of donor blood is that the individual does not have to go through the period of regeneration of their own RBCs.


                    3-5 days before performance. please shut the **** up about it not being effective 2 weeks out.
                    EPO and Blood Doping are not the same thing, numb nuts.

                    EPO injections are taken ED for 2 weeks and then the effects kick in a few weeks after


                    Blood Doping is the process of drawing your own blood and then re-injecting it.


                    Not the same thing.

                    EPO is not effective 2 weeks out.


                    Period

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                      #70
                      Originally posted by carts View Post
                      here...
                      How Are Blood Dopers Busted?
                      Athletes who use blood doping to increase their performance will have a higher red blood cell density. This can be detected by testing the athlete's levels of hemoglobin (protein which causes blood to be the red color we see.) EPO and other blood doping drugs can be detected in an athlete's system by urine tests. It's believed there are some blood doping drugs out there that drug testers don't know about which some athletes are using.



                      if ac uses this style of doping he might have been dead right now cause = heart attack.
                      it will NOT be detectable in the URINE if they are USING MASKING AGENTS. how do you think shane got away without getting caught?

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