Is there a significant benefit for boxers to roid up 14 days before a fight?

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How is he lying? Toning down and shedding weight aren't necessarily contradictory. It just means he's not working himself as hard and at the same time not eating as much as he normally does to shed some weight.

Boxers making weight generally go through the same process.

Manny said he cant be tested 14 days out because he's training hard then. Actually, he spoke as if it was the most intense training.

[IMDAZED]

Well then you cannot say that intense training ISN'T a caveat as well. I could easily assume that all the other forms require intense training just as well as i can assume that it doesn't. Conte's statement in this regard is vague and privy to interpretation by BOTH sides.

BUT.

It is more logical to assume that intense training is needed since that's what the drugs are used for in the first place. To allow you to train more vigorously compared to when you are not taking it. Why else do you think you would have to take it AT LEAST two weeks?

If all one needed for a boost was to take it on the day of the fight, then Conte would have mentioned that as well. But he didn't. His prerequisite was a period of time of intense training which in this case is two weeks.

Cyclists won't even consider intense training ONE DAY BEFORE THEY PERFORM. Its just not common sense.

And cyclists are the biggest blood dopers in the world . Bottom line, as Conte stated, 14 days and more is too much.

[AFighter4U]

Manny said he cant be tested 14 days out because he's training hard then. Actually, he spoke as if it was the most intense training.

He's not lying. To him ALL training is intense training. Its not just physical but also mental. Any elite boxer will tell you that you have to be prepared 100% both mentally and physically.

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He's not lying. To him ALL training is intense training. Its not just physical but also mental. Any elite boxer will tell you that you have to be prepared 100% both mentally and physically.

I think you're putting words into his mouth. You don't need to go so far as to do that in order to make an excuse for him. Can you provide a link to where he said this?

[AFighter4U]

And cyclists are the biggest blood dopers in the world . Bottom line, as Conte stated, 14 days and more is too much.

Indeed, cyclists are known for doping and i agree with you there. And i also agree with you that Conte stated 14 days.

But here's where we differ:

While we both agree that 14 days of intense training is required, i contend that there is absolutely no way ANY boxer would allow himself to endure two weeks of intense training, WITH FIGHT NIGHT RIGHT AFTER THE 14TH NIGHT OF INTENSE TRAINING.

It is simply common sense that the body needs time to recuperate from such a period of strenuous activity, MUCH MORE SO when you are using artificial means to prop up your training since you are subjugating your body to pressure and work a level of which it is not accustomed to.

[IMDAZED]

Indeed, cyclists are known for doping and i agree with you there. And i also agree with you that Conte stated 14 days.

But here's where we differ:

While we both agree that 14 days of intense training is required, i contend that there is absolutely no way ANY boxer would allow himself to endure two weeks of intense training, WITH FIGHT NIGHT RIGHT AFTER THE 14TH NIGHT OF INTENSE TRAINING.

It is simply common sense that the body needs time to recuperate from such a period of strenuous activity, MUCH MORE SO when you are using artificial means to prop up your training since you are subjugating your body to pressure and work a level of which it is not accustomed to.

No, we don't both agree that intense training is required. Conte makes no mention of this except in one particular instance referring to one particular group of PEDS.

[AFighter4U]

I think you're putting words into his mouth. You don't need to go so far as to do that in order to make an excuse for him. Can you provide a link to where he said this?

I don't need to. Pac simply doesn't want any unnecessary distractions right before a fight.

But in case you still disagree with me here, let us simply agree to disagree and leave it at that shall we?

[IMDAZED]

I don't need to. Pac simply doesn't want any unnecessary distractions right before a fight.

But in case you still disagree with me here, let us simply agree to disagree and leave it at that shall we?

Again, please provide proof that Pac stated he believes all training is equally intense. I'd rather not agree to disagree with someone who makes up lies just to excuse a fighter.

[BattlingNelson]

Anabolic steroids are used by athletes to train harder and for longer periods of time. It will be useless 14 days before the fight.

But EPO will be highly effective.

[AFighter4U]

No, we don't both agree that intense training is required. Conte makes no mention of this except in one particular instance referring to one particular group of PEDS.

I have yet to read of any PEDS that doesn't require intense training for it to have benefits. Also, conte's statement at that point is pretty vague.

He doesn't mention what specific PEDS they were, nor did he ever mention that those unknown drugs DO NOT REQUIRE TRAINING to benefit users.

Basing your opinion on something so vague that so many contradictory assumptions can be made of it isn't a good ground to stand on.