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Originally posted by indystress View Postlook at what happened to marquez having to fight as a welterweight...marquez looked overweight and slow. i dont think it had to do anything with what mayweather did because marquez is a freekeen warrior that will fight you and brawl you all nite long...but that extra weight just did marquez in. we did not see a warrior in marquez that nite...we saw a bloated and overweight marquez that was out of his elements,
JMM is a badass, and it ****** to see him struggle out there, but he chose to, so we can't really fault anyone. Floyd coming in overweight is a whole other issue.
People are always yelling about how they are "true Boxing fans" on here, yet they seem to have this issue with catch weights? Two fighters wanna meet for whatever reason, then they meet under agreed circumstances. i don't see the problem.
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Originally posted by the gent View Posti agree with you here. JMM came up in for this one fight, and did so too fast. Manny however was gradually coming up in weight before Cotto. 3 fights prior he was already moving up. JMM came up for this one fight unfortunately for a payday and that usually ends up in what we all witnessed.
JMM is a badass, and it ****** to see him struggle out there, but he chose to, so we can't really fault anyone. Floyd coming in overweight is a whole other issue.
People are always yelling about how they are "true Boxing fans" on here, yet they seem to have this issue with catch weights? Two fighters wanna meet for whatever reason, then they meet under agreed circumstances. i don't see the problem.
if you anti pac fans cannot handle cotto having to come down 1 lb from his normal official weigh-ins...then dont contridict yourself by saying pac should fight paul williams just because paul williams is willing to come down 2 weight divisions...which is way more than what cotto had to lose in the first fight against pac, and a possible 2nd fight that would likely be 1 lb less than what cotto weighed in for yuri.Last edited by indystress; 07-06-2010, 11:30 AM.
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Originally posted by indystress View Posti agree with you on this one...if two boxers agree on a catchweight weight, then why should anyone else/boxing fans even over react about it? look at paul williams...he currently fighting at 160 and willing to go down to 147 to fight mayweather or pac...that in itself is a catchweight for him. anti pac fans will say why not fight paul williams since he is willing to come down two divisions down to 147...but yet had issue for cotto coming down 1 lb against first pac fight...and seem to have issue with a PAC/COTTO 2 that will require cotto to come down 1 or 2 lbs from his sub 154 official weigh-in against yuri.
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Cotto by k.o if it happens at 54.
At a catchweight, he'll be too shot and weightdrained to win.
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Originally posted by Saucy Jacky View PostCotto by k.o if it happens at 54.
At a catchweight, he'll be too shot and weightdrained to win.
besides, if you think that fighting 1 or 2 lbs below your normal weighin weight is a big disadvantage...dont you think that fighting 2 to 5 lbs above your normal weigh-in would be a disadvantage as well? people need to start looking at both sides of the fight, not just the guy needing to lose 1 or 2 lbs, but must also look at the guy that needs to gain those lbs as well.
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Originally posted by indystress View Postif it happens at 154? cotto didnt make 154 against yuri. and cotto consistantly officially weighed in at sub 147 for his welterweight fights.
besides, if you think that fighting 1 or 2 lbs below your normal weighin weight is a big disadvantage...dont you think that fighting 2 to 5 lbs above your normal weigh-in would be a disadvantage as well? people need to start looking at both sides of the fight, not just the guy needing to lose 1 or 2 lbs, but must also look at the guy that needs to gain those lbs as well.
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Cotto lost to Pac for a number of reasons (the catchweight being the least of them). The short of it is this - Cotto let himself get hit too much, and he wasn't busy enough. Cotto might have said he was at his best, but it's pretty clear that he wasn't. He has never been the same since his brutal loss to Margarito, and he was fighting with an inexperienced corner that didn't do anything to help him with the fight.
Now, having said that, I'm still not sure that Cotto could win the rematch. Steward's a great trainer, but he's not a miracle worker. Cotto has always made himself open to taking unneccessary punishment. It's going to be very difficult to overcome that. He's also still going to be slower than Manny; but Cotto hits very hard, so he'll always have a puncher's chance at beating Pac. And it's not like he would be the first fighter to avenge a loss - Pac's done it himself with Morales.
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