Who Belives Rjj Weight Lost Effected Him!!

[mr.thraz]

also it takes 72 hours for rehydration to protect your brain from impact

[Neuraxis]

So you are right its 10 lbs.

[mr.thraz]

So you are right its 10 lbs.

uh thats 24 pounds

[Neuraxis]

You missed this. For HW you don't have to starve and dehydrate yourself in order to make weight, so did RJJ actually come into his LHW fights at 175 on fight night? Or would he starve and dehydrate himself in order to make 175 lbs, and then go up in weight the day of the fight?

[Nautilus]

Yes it affected him. It increased his level of competition.

Just compare Tarver and Johnson with Ruiz.

[phallus]

Looking at Jones, when he was super middle the guy was so small i really didn't believe he'd ba able to be a real lt heavyweight. in his first tuneup fight at lt hw he was less than 175 lbs, i think he weighed a lot closer to 170 or 171. i doubt Roy was sweating about making the 175 lb limit, he's not james toney, he probably came in to each fight a little under 175

[Neuraxis]

Looking at Jones, when he was super middle the guy was so small i really didn't believe he'd ba able to be a real lt heavyweight. in his first tuneup fight at lt hw he was less than 175 lbs, i think he weighed a lot closer to 170 or 171. i doubt Roy was sweating about making the 175 lb limit, he's not james toney, he probably came in to each fight a little under 175

Which seems to be the case except for his last 3 fights which didn't go to well for him. This also raises another issue as to how was RJJ going to beat DM when DM out weighed him by 20 lbs?

[phallus]

he'd beat DM much the same way he beat Hops and Toney, with speed and distance, but i think mostly distance if he fought DM, he'd make sure DM was chasing him around the ring like Hagler chased SRL

[mr.thraz]

You missed this. For HW you don't have to starve and dehydrate yourself in order to make weight, so did RJJ actually come into his LHW fights at 175 on fight night? Or would he starve and dehydrate himself in order to make 175 lbs, and then go up in weight the day of the fight?

i not sure i understand the question. but the post hw jones was not
easly a lightheavyweight. before going hw jones walked around at about 180 and only had to do light sparing and roadwork to get to fightingweight which is evdent by the fact he only gained about two pounds by fightnight.

but after going heavyweight he probably had very little fat to lose and had to lose muscle and waterweight a bad combo for arobic work, no fat or water reserves would mean no energy which is how he fought.

[mr.thraz]

i think we need to remember here that jones never looked like himself since his move back down to lightheavy.

when jones moved up to heavy he took a solid right hand shot from ruiz and fired back unfazed. ruiz dropped holyfeild twice!

i belive jones just sweated the weight off for the tarver and johnson fights, his skin didn't look good in those fight at all
a sign of dehydraition.

i think the only reason he won the first tarver fight is: he fooled taver in to playing the feint game with him, and taver being the competitive guy he is got himself outsmartassed and lowering his punch output making jones the winner of the many boring rounds of that fight.

jones made a big mistake moving down to lightheavy the way he did, he was pure muscle as a heavyweight and he should have taken a whole 6 months to work the muscleweight off, instead he kept the weight hoping for an attractive heavyweight bout to materealize and when it didn't he decide to keep his promise to tarver and probably starved himself while he ran the weight off leaving himself weakend and without any reserve energy to call on.

jones should have stopped at cruiser and gotten another belt before heading for lightheavy and facing tarver, it would have only been a five pound drop in weight at the time and would have further enhanced his legend while giving him more time to lose the remander of the weight afterwards.

if he comes back he should do so at cruier (now that the cruiser limit is 200) so he can truly have all his resources to use, and not be drained and suseptable to knockouts because of dehydraition.

by then tarver should be iching for another big money fight and a 3ed jones bout would be right up his ally, all jones would have to say is "come on up to cruiser or heavy" and we can see them both fighting at there best.