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Originally posted by IMDAZED View PostWhy would it take you hours? What do you mean "at that time?" Did these PED experts change their mind? The bottom line is that NO PED expert has ever said that. So - like Manny - either you are lying or misinformed, which is it?
I repeat, NO "PED Expert" ever said that. None. You said most experts and now it'll take you hours to find something? Hours? Try forever.
lying for sure........there is no way he is misinformed........that can't be used as an excuse....i've posted zillions of educational threads re PED......in which the real experts voiced their opinions....no the imaginary experts Dave is talking about.
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Originally posted by Dave Rado View PostBecause if you search for "pacquiao mayweather 24 day steroid" you get 153,000 search results, and I'm not going to spend my time hunting through 153,000 articles to find the ones I read last December or January.
ONE PED Expert? Just one?
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Originally posted by mesher View PostWhat Dave is saying is correct, the reason steroid testing hasn't been so big in boxing is because the common belief is that steroids and the extra bulk they produce actually "hinder" a boxer's performance, they make the muscles tight and rigged. I mean, look at Shane, Vargas etc, did they perform exceptionally well while on steroids??? If anything it may have had a total negative impact on their careers in the long run.
steroids don't produce extra bulk unless you train to achieve extra bulk....you are right about the tightness though.....but that is all a timing issue.......
either way....what i want to know is this.....is EPO beneficial to a boxers performance???? i would say that is a resounding YES......
does the NSAC or any other commission test for EPO?? the answer is NO!!!
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Originally posted by check hook View Postlying for sure........there is no way he is misinformed........that can't be used as an excuse....i've posted zillions of educational threads re PED......in which the real experts voiced their opinions....no the imaginary experts Dave is talking about.
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I call this ***** self-ownage.
Travis Tygart:
A: "The human growth hormone for sure, levels of testosterone, and other designer steroids. Sounds like you've got some information -- I'm not agreeing factually that was the difference, and I'm not disagreeing. But if that's the case, the other piece is that, prior to that 14-day or 24-day blackout period, what system was in place? Were you just using the Nevada, or the state of California, system? If that's the case, I'm not worried about the 14-day or the 24-day blackout period, I'm worried about the rest of it. If someone's telling you that's where it fell apart, I think you've got to add the follow-up, 'Well, what kind of testing was going to happen before the 14-day or the 24-day blackout period?' The 14-day period, I'm a lot less concerned about that than what you're doing in the two months before that 14-day period."
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Originally posted by check hook View Poststeroids don't produce extra bulk unless you train to achieve extra bulk....you are right about the tightness though.....but that is all a timing issue.......
either way....what i want to know is this.....is EPO beneficial to a boxers performance???? i would say that is a resounding YES......
does the NSAC or any other commission test for EPO?? the answer is NO!!!
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Originally posted by scarhead View PostMan, Pacquiao fans do not understand you when you say "The NSAC does not test for EPO". They will answer with some dumb crap like "Uh, Manny has passed all the tests, he doesn't use EPO".
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Originally posted by IMDAZED View Post**Yawn**
Only you could read that and think it's self-ownage.
Isn't that your boy, Travis Tagyrt? Isn't this Floyd's expert? Seems weird that he isn't concerned about those final days, but the actual 2 months prior to that.
Travis Tygart:
A: "The human growth hormone for sure, levels of testosterone, and other designer steroids. Sounds like you've got some information -- I'm not agreeing factually that was the difference, and I'm not disagreeing. But if that's the case, the other piece is that, prior to that 14-day or 24-day blackout period, what system was in place? Were you just using the Nevada, or the state of California, system? If that's the case, I'm not worried about the 14-day or the 24-day blackout period, I'm worried about the rest of it. If someone's telling you that's where it fell apart, I think you've got to add the follow-up, 'Well, what kind of testing was going to happen before the 14-day or the 24-day blackout period?' The 14-day period, I'm a lot less concerned about that than what you're doing in the two months before that 14-day period."
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