I had Valero to KO Bradley, Khan, Alexander, Ortiz and Maidana.

[B.U.R.N.E.R]

He doesn't!!

Look at how he punches and his k.o %.

Its pitiful.

Naw I agree. He is a feather fist.

[Dick Buffman]

Exactly what I am saying.

I don't see why people are hyping Bradley up so much. He has 11 kos in 25 fights, majority of his record is against bums and journey men.

He didn't even clearly win the belt, he split decision Witter of all people.

People underestimate how hard it is to k.o 27 people in 27 fights.

Even if the guys are not all "world class", k.o'ing pro fighters is not as easy as some make it out to be.

They just want to resist the fact that Valero was in fact, a special once in a lifetime kind of fighter.

And thats wrong.

[Dick Buffman]

According to Jreck, who is a great poster, Valero worked Pac over in sparring badly to the point that Pac avoided him from that point on.

I've also seen Valero work over a prime version of Morales too.

Dude could fight. AND PUNCH. Get over it.

[Spray_resistant]

Exactly what I am saying.

I don't see why people are hyping Bradley up so much. He has 11 kos in 25 fights, majority of his record is against bums and journey men.

He didn't even clearly win the belt, he split decision Witter of all people.

Dude no stop, the guy gets better with every fight in addition to him being a natural Jr.ww he is superior to what Valero was in every way other than power.

This is insane ppl talking about him beating Tim when he never even beat a world class LW forget about anyone at all at 140.

[Dick Buffman]

Dude no stop, the guy gets better with every fight in addition to him being a natural Jr.ww he is superior to what Valero was in every way other than power.

This is insane ppl talking about him beating Tim when he never even beat a world class LW forget about anyone at all at 140.

Bull****.

Footspeed Valero

Handspeed Valero

Chin Valero

Defense Valero

[damned1974]

They still all have better resumes than Valero? Really?

I think 100% ko percentage is better than squeaking by Witter.
Quitting against Maidana.
Becoming known against a quitter.
Beating Urango.
A padded record and being ktfo in the first round.

100% ko's against even more substandard opponents than the fighters that you are insulting-bfd.Boxing isn't always about ko's....if Valero's biggest accomplishments came against ko'ing every bum he faced (and the bums he faced were far worst than the guys you are ****ting on),how would you rate him if he could no longer ko someone with boxing ability,or someone who can fight back???

If you question Maidana,Bradley,Alexander and Khan's resume-it is double-standards that you are bringing into this-because Valero never moved up,we have no idea how he would perform against a higher weight class,if he would keep his abilities,and his resume is littered with far worst opponents than the likes of the four that you have mentioned.....

[F l i c k e r]

Bull****.

Footspeed Valero

Handspeed Valero

Chin Valero

Defense Valero

Daaaaaaaaamn. Nah Jack, I can't believe that one.

[Ragnar Lothbrok]

According to Jreck, who is a great poster, Valero worked Pac over in sparring badly to the point that Pac avoided him from that point on.

I've also seen Valero work over a prime version of Morales too.

Dude could fight. AND PUNCH. Get over it.

that is unsubstantiated urban boxing myth legend.


smh at jack & burner, the last 2 douche bags on the valero band wagon slurping his balls more than original valero fans like me & jreck.....



although i agree with burner's thread.

[Dick Buffman]

Daaaaaaaaamn. Nah Jack, I can't believe that one.

He fought w/ his hands down cuz' he controlled distance w/ his legs ala Martinez, Calzaghe, Froch....

Bradley ain't Sweet Pea himself.

that is unsubstantiated urban boxing myth legend.


smh at jack & burner, the last 2 douche bags on the valero band wagon slurping his balls more than original valero fans like me & jreck.....

although i agree with burner's thread.

I always secretly liked Valero but hated his commie ways. Then I said **** it, life's too short after he beat DeMarco.

And its not urban legend, Jreck tells no lies, and the youtube vid of him and Morales is probably still up somewhere.

Crackbaby.

[damned1974]

According to Jreck, who is a great poster, Valero worked Pac over in sparring badly to the point that Pac avoided him from that point on.

I've also seen Valero work over a prime version of Morales too.

Dude could fight. AND PUNCH. Get over it.

lol@ "according to some poster"...there is no doubt he can FIGHT and SLUG, but he was no slick boxer.Still very rough and crude...
The main emphasis on Valero was his ko power,if he was sluggish and didn't keep his power moving up (not to mention his new opponents at 140 would be the best he has ever faced) what good would he be??? To top this off,that is his only selling point by you guys-his ko ratio,not his boxing skills.