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    #51
    Originally posted by pistol whip View Post
    He fought Cotto after that, you know the guy who beat Shane Mosely. I know styles make fights but even you can see that fighting the guy who beat Shane is an acceptable decision, not the better one, but acceptable when all things are considered. When you're fighting the guy who beat the guy you are supposiably ducking how can you be avoiding anyone to begin with?
    Cotto beat Shane a while before that and then got brutally stopped by Margarito, lets not pretend Cotto was coming of that win before he fought Pac. Mosley on the other hand had rebounded from a close loss to Cotto (i had it 115-113 Cotto) and beaten the n1 WW.

    I don't believe it was pac ducking anyway..

    More like Arum wanting an in house fight like allways even if its at the expense of boxing fans (see Clottey/Pac).

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      #52
      Originally posted by COACH-WEBB View Post
      I see that your gun starting popping and you didn't READ my posts. Cotto was in wars at 140, then Tony took whatever he had left out of him (and possibly cheated in doing). Those are facts.
      Pac has been in more wars ea: Morales/JMM ,what's your point? Cotto didnt even fought an A fighter @140

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        #53
        Originally posted by COACH-WEBB View Post
        I see that your gun starting popping and you didn't READ my posts. Cotto was in wars at 140, then Tony took whatever he had left out of him (and possibly cheated in doing). Those are facts.

        No thats your opinion and there is no way you can prove any of that. Like I stated before *****s have been coming up with the same excuses for every single one of pac's last 4 opponents. Oscar was old and weight drained, Hatton was past it, Cotto past it, Clotty suddenly ****** despite being a solid champion and contender for years. lets also not forget all the ridiculous steroid talk. Logic tells me that at this point Manny's success has more to do with Manny's talent and less to do with any excuse these mosquito brain ***** fans can come up with.

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          #54
          Originally posted by snootz86 View Post
          Cotto beat Shane a while before that and then got brutally stopped by Margarito, lets not pretend Cotto was coming of that win before he fought Pac. Mosley on the other hand had rebounded from a close loss to Cotto (i had it 115-113 Cotto) and beaten the n1 WW.

          I don't believe it was pac ducking anyway..

          More like Arum wanting an in house fight like allways even if its at the expense of boxing fans (see Clottey/Pac).
          So why did Roach say your too good Shane , why did Roach say Cotto is damaged goods but we will still suck him down for some insurance ,, Roach said these things so they could fight an in house fighter , lol ,,, what he said is called ducking Mosley and creating situations to gain an advantage Pacs way !

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            #55
            Originally posted by Reloaded View Post
            So why did Roach say your too good Shane , why did Roach say Cotto is damaged goods but we will still suck him down for some insurance ,, Roach said these things so they could fight an in house fighter , lol ,,, what he said is called ducking Mosley and creating situations to gain an advantage Pacs way !
            I know i believe Roach thought Cotto was the easy option infact he even said he was but Arum is the worse of the bunch i hate him

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              #56
              Originally posted by BlackHat View Post
              Pac has been in more wars ea: Morales/JMM ,what's your point? Cotto didnt even fought an A fighter @140
              And that is what separates Manny from Cotto. My point is, Cotto is a ruined fighter. He was on his way after he left 140 and the Tony beating sealed it. That is my point. Manny has been in wars, but he has NEVER taken a beating like the one Tony gave Cotto and Tony may have been cheating in the process. That says ALOT man.

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                #57
                Originally posted by snootz86 View Post
                Cotto beat Shane a while before that and then got brutally stopped by Margarito, lets not pretend Cotto was coming of that win before he fought Pac. Mosley on the other hand had rebounded from a close loss to Cotto (i had it 115-113 Cotto) and beaten the n1 WW.

                I don't believe it was pac ducking anyway..

                More like Arum wanting an in house fight like allways even if its at the expense of boxing fans (see Clottey/Pac).

                And what fighters don't get knocked out? Ever? Just how you dismissed Cotto beating Mosley I'm gonna dismiss the Cotto Margarito fight Because it happened 2 years ago!


                Seriously it's only in hindsight that you guys come up with this **** it's never before the fight. And if Cotto Vs Pac was at the expense of the boxing fan's then boxing fans must not like to see Pac in a competative boxing matche where his opponent is actually fighting back unlike the Oscar and hatton blow outs.

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                  #58
                  Originally posted by COACH-WEBB View Post
                  And that is what separates Manny from Cotto. My point is, Cotto is a ruined fighter. He was on his way after he left 140 and the Tony beating sealed it. That is my point. Manny has been in wars, but he has NEVER taken a beating like the one Tony gave Cotto and Tony may have been cheating in the process. That says ALOT man.
                  after 140 Cotto stayed undefeated for 5 more fights before Marg, ruined? yeah right!

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                    #59
                    Originally posted by COACH-WEBB View Post
                    Everyone that has followed the sport knows that Miguel Cotto was not in his prime.





                    Right. People that think so are history revisionist.

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                      #60
                      Originally posted by pistol whip View Post
                      And what fighters don't get knocked out? Ever? Just how you dismissed Cotto beating Mosley I'm gonna dismiss the Cotto Margarito fight Because it happened 2 years ago!


                      Seriously it's only in hindsight that you guys come up with this **** it's never before the fight. And if Cotto Vs Pac was at the expense of the boxing fan's then boxing fans must not like to see Pac in a competative boxing matche where his opponent is actually fighting back unlike the Oscar and hatton blow outs.
                      Why are you even still trying to argue Roach already owned you and himself.

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