Time to give Floyd Mayweather Jr. his due.....

[i_am_a_champ]

I got up to, "And still beat De La Hoya decisively."

It was a split decision you moron. At least make your nuthugging make sense.

We, the fans, give Mayweather his due. He's brilliant. The problem for Mayweather is that Pacquiao is more brilliant. Maybe it is time Floyd and his fans give Pacquiao his due? That is a more sensible question.

I've heard so much moronic illogical crap come out of Pretty Boy's mouth. Classic example, after Ortiz, his explanation that if he were to go up to heavyweight and still knock people out, it would be questionable, so Pacquiao must be on something as he has gone up so many weights and still knocking people out. (Floyd started out at 130lbs not 147/154bs, and started later aged 19, not 15 like Pacquiao. Pacquiao hasn't knocked anybody out above 140lbs, just stopped some by accumulation. It's ****ing idiotic logic, and you have to be a ****ing moron to eat it up. Mayweather is full of ****.)

I've yet to hear the same lack of respect and reasoning come out of Pacquiao's mouth. I've never heard him disparage Mayweather's accomplishments. He just thinks he's achieved more - and he has. More weights, more world titles, more big names on his record (Barrera, Morales, Marquez@130, Cotto, etc).

People project their issues onto other people. Mayweather is projecting. He never gives credit to the accomplishments of others, so he assumes nobody gives him credit.

bRo Oscar onlywon rounds 2,4 and 7. U ccud give him rd 12 for his late rally.
Pbf weighed 148 thady night and Oscar weight was 167/8. Pbf broke his hand mid fight. It was NOT an SD bro. Peace.

[KayDub]

Am I the only person that realized that this thread was over a year old?

[charlieg]

Actually mayweather also beaten Diego Corrales Who was undefeated and in his prime he also knocked him down 5 times and the fight was stopped.what the **** is he projecting nobody gives him credit for what he has done. Explain to me how pacquaio is more brilliant Floyd is one of the purest boxers out there. Against Marquez he landed 59% of his punches while Marquez landed less then 12% he put a clinic on a guy who pacquaio struggled with and some consider he lost. No tell my about how pacquaio is better than him. I am beating a dead horse that this guy already explained loud and clear. I mean acknoweledge the facts you don't have to bean ignored fan boy of pacquaio at leastican admit pacquaio is good.

Look sonny, I'm going to make this real simple for you, because you are obviously the simple kind.

Corrales was undefeated. All fighters are undefeated at some point. You can only judge their careers at the end of them. Sadly Diego left the building early, but his record was clear; beat by Castillo, beat by Casamayor, beat by Clottey. He wasn't that good.

Castillo wasn't that good either.

Against Marquez, Mayweather put on a boxing clinic. However, styles make fights. Mayweather's style is a nightmare for Marquez. Marquez is not a come forward fighter. With shorter reach, and noticeably fleshy at the weight, he had no answers to Floyd. Styles make fights. Boxers with far less skill than Marquez put plenty of leather on Floyd.

Pacquiao is more brilliant than Floyd because he's achieved more. That is fact. More belts, more weights, and more HOFers on his record. Maybe that's not fair, since Pac turned pro at 15, but it's true. Mayweather would not be unbeaten had he turned pro at 15 and not had Bob Arum to guide his early career (yeah, y'know, the Bob Arum Mayweather fans cry about protecting Manny by feeding him Top Rank fighters... that Bob Arum did the same for Floyd for a considerable period).

See, Pacquiao is a kid from the streets who had nothing. He turned pro to feed his family. No boxing parents, no amateur career (btw Floyd lost plenty as an amateur).

Mayweather is great. He is brilliant. He's just not achieved more than Pacquiao. So let's give them both their due, OK? Both great.