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      #12
      Originally posted by Bombs View Post
      Thats because you don't know how to

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        #13
        Real boxing fans and boxers themselves know the truth. Its the Pac/Pinoy fans who are blind.

        Facts:
        - Floyd fights DLH @ 154, in the gloves of DLH's choice, in the ring of his choice and beats him.
        - Floyd KO's and stops an undefeated prime Ricky Hatton in 11 rounds.
        - Floyd comes out of a 2 year retirement and puts on a boxing clinic against Juan Manuel Marquez who was ranked the #2 p4p boxer in the world. And the same guy who won the majority of the rounds against Manny Pacquiao over 2 fights.
        - Floyd takes on Sugar Shane Mosley after his destruction of Margarito, and easily beats him 11 rounds to 1.

        Floyd does this and get NO PROPS by the MEDIA OR GENERAL PUBLIC

        yet...

        Manny Pacquiao:
        - Beats/Stops a drained DLH @ 147. A weight in which DLH hadnt fought in in over 8 years.
        - KO's a broken down Hatton after Floyd mentally destroyed him.
        - Takes on Mosley ONLY after seeing how bad he looked in his loss against Floyd, and in his draw against Sergio Mora.
        - Decides to fight a 39 yr old Juan Manuel Marquez at Welterweight, over 3 after the fight was relevant. A weight class in which he looked horrible against Floyd Mayweather, and carried no power or speed at that weight.

        Yet some how Manny gets props.

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          #14
          Ducking formidable opposition or not, in terms of skill, Money is one of the best.

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            #15
            I got up to, "And still beat De La Hoya decisively."

            It was a split decision you moron. At least make your nuthugging make sense.

            We, the fans, give Mayweather his due. He's brilliant. The problem for Mayweather is that Pacquiao is more brilliant. Maybe it is time Floyd and his fans give Pacquiao his due? That is a more sensible question.

            I've heard so much moronic illogical crap come out of Pretty Boy's mouth. Classic example, after Ortiz, his explanation that if he were to go up to heavyweight and still knock people out, it would be questionable, so Pacquiao must be on something as he has gone up so many weights and still knocking people out. (Floyd started out at 130lbs not 147/154bs, and started later aged 19, not 15 like Pacquiao. Pacquiao hasn't knocked anybody out above 140lbs, just stopped some by accumulation. It's ****ing idiotic logic, and you have to be a ****ing moron to eat it up. Mayweather is full of ****.)

            I've yet to hear the same lack of respect and reasoning come out of Pacquiao's mouth. I've never heard him disparage Mayweather's accomplishments. He just thinks he's achieved more - and he has. More weights, more world titles, more big names on his record (Barrera, Morales, Marquez@130, Cotto, etc).

            People project their issues onto other people. Mayweather is projecting. He never gives credit to the accomplishments of others, so he assumes nobody gives him credit.

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              #16
              Originally posted by 4CornersKid View Post
              They say he never beat anybody who was any good. The main fact to pull from both Pac and Floyd's resumes are that Floyd had more big fights with guys coming off wins than Pac did.

              Genaro Hernandez, Angel Manfredy, Diego Corrales, Carlos Hernandez, Jesus Chavez, Jose Luis Castillo, Phillip N'dou, Arturo Gatti, Zab Judah, Oscar De La Hoya, Ricky Hatton, Juan Manuel Marquez, Shane Mosley, Victor Ortiz.

              Most all of those fights, his opponent was coming off wins or in their prime. Sure, Gatti wasn't in his prime anymore, but he hadn't lost in over 3 years and was coming off 5 straight wins. Sure, Oscar wasn't in his prime anymore. But, he went up to 154 and beat the champion, and Oscar had just KO'd Mayorga in his comeback fight. Mosley wasn't in his prime anymore, but Shane had just KO'd a latter prime Margarito (the last time Marg was considered somewhat "prime").

              People that hate on Floyd's wins over Manfredy, Corrales, Castillo, Chavez, Hatton, Ortiz....are just haters. It's simple as that.
              But there's hating and there's looking at them in context. Manfredy, Corrales, Castillo were all world title contenders but their records are not particularly impressive. They will not go down in history as remarkable fighters. Castillo and Corrales would be nobodies except for the classic fights between the two of them. Judah is another, he's going down in history as a talented guy who lost all the big fights he was in.

              They both have stellar records. Pacquiao has more world titles over more weight divisions. He also has repeat fights with ring legends (Barrera, Morales, Marquez). That's why his record is better.

              People that hate on Pacquiao's wins over Cotto, Margarito, Clottey, Diaz, Hatton, are haters. Simple as that.

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                #17
                Originally posted by charlieg View Post
                I got up to, "And still beat De La Hoya decisively."

                It was a split decision you moron. At least make your nuthugging make sense.

                We, the fans, give Mayweather his due. He's brilliant. The problem for Mayweather is that Pacquiao is more brilliant. Maybe it is time Floyd and his fans give Pacquiao his due? That is a more sensible question.

                I've heard so much moronic illogical crap come out of Pretty Boy's mouth. Classic example, after Ortiz, his explanation that if he were to go up to heavyweight and still knock people out, it would be questionable, so Pacquiao must be on something as he has gone up so many weights and still knocking people out. (Floyd started out at 130lbs not 147/154bs, and started later aged 19, not 15 like Pacquiao. Pacquiao hasn't knocked anybody out above 140lbs, just stopped some by accumulation. It's ****ing idiotic logic, and you have to be a ****ing moron to eat it up. Mayweather is full of ****.)

                I've yet to hear the same lack of respect and reasoning come out of Pacquiao's mouth. I've never heard him disparage Mayweather's accomplishments. He just thinks he's achieved more - and he has. More weights, more world titles, more big names on his record (Barrera, Morales, Marquez@130, Cotto, etc).

                People project their issues onto other people. Mayweather is projecting. He never gives credit to the accomplishments of others, so he assumes nobody gives him credit.
                Actually mayweather also beaten Diego Corrales Who was undefeated and in his prime he also knocked him down 5 times and the fight was stopped.what the **** is he projecting nobody gives him credit for what he has done. Explain to me how pacquaio is more brilliant Floyd is one of the purest boxers out there. Against Marquez he landed 59% of his punches while Marquez landed less then 12% he put a clinic on a guy who pacquaio struggled with and some consider he lost. No tell my about how pacquaio is better than him. I am beating a dead horse that this guy already explained loud and clear. I mean acknoweledge the facts you don't have to bean ignored fan boy of pacquaio at leastican admit pacquaio is good.

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                  #18
                  just when im about to give props to floyd, he ****s up.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by rochemback View Post
                    I don't think that's what he did. He just explained that you can find flaws for every fighter but "The double standards are not fair and neither fighter should be held to them."
                    I agree. You can nit-pick about Floyd's and Pac's opponents all day and that's exactly what a lot of people are pointlessly doing, but the fact remains that those two are heads and shoulders above the rest in boxing at the moment and both deserve massive respect without discrediting the other one.
                    Thank you for your objectivity, fine sir. I wish others were the same. I don't mind when people say that Mayweather is terrible or Pacquiao is terrible. The thing is that there's always two ways to look at it. I love Pacquiao as much as the next guy, but some posters out there...act like he does absolutely everything perfectly and that he deserves full credit for every single win while discrediting every one of Floyd's wins. I can't stand that...at all.

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                      #20
                      To me, when you are hated like Floyd is, you ARE certainly Good.

                      But like someone else said, he made it so that the public hated him through the way he conducts himself in order to sell a fight. I don't blame him for that because at the end of the day, its all about the benjamins.

                      You cannot deny the fact that regardless of whether or not people hate him or love him overall, he is always listed in the top 10 boxers today. The man truly possess skills and you can clearly see it.

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