Comments Thread For: Mayweather is Back: BScene’s Pound for Pound Top Ten

[jrosales13]

How can a champ lose his number 1 spot without losing or retiring?

at least the ring still has pac at number 1, thank god for some logic.

Look at Burner post above you.

And, you don't have to beat the #1 guy to take over his spot. Ok you have Pac as #1. So Pac can fight JMM next at WW. While Floyd beats Paul Williams and Martinez at MW. Would you still consider Pac #1 since nobody has beaten him to take that spot?

What about Pac and Floyd never fights each but they keep winning. But, they're fighting lesser competition. And, now Martinez beats Paul Williams in a rematch goes to 168 beats Bute and then beats the winner of the Super 6 then goes up to LHW and beats Dawson. And, then goes up to HW and wins a title.

Are you not going to put Martinez #1 because Floyd and Pac didn't lose? While they took the path of least resistance Martinez would of fought the harder comp.

Honestly IMO, and again P4P is all an opinion, right now I see it as a 1a 1b scenario. Both deserve the #1 spot. So I have it 1a and 1b and you could put either in any spot you want.

And, please explain to me The Ring logic? With having Donaire and Caballero in the top 10? And, you think they're using logic? Donaire #4? come on man, but hey is all an opinion no logic needed.

[mathed]

Lets Pretend Willaims at 3 on the ring list.

He beats Martinez again, then KO's Floyd. How is he not the P4P Number 1?

Its not everyday that 1 and 2 can actually fight each other. The rankings always been like that.

Martinez will ko Williams should they fight again, he likely won't beat Floyd, and will be lucky to beat Cintron......maybe 8th or 9th at best

[B.U.R.N.E.R]

Look at Burner post above you.

And, you don't have to beat the #1 guy to take over his spot. Ok you have Pac as #1. So Pac can fight JMM next at WW. While Floyd beats Paul Williams and Martinez at MW. Would you still consider Pac #1 since nobody has beaten him to take that spot?

What about Pac and Floyd never fights each but they keep winning. But, they're fighting lesser competition. And, now Martinez beats Paul Williams in a rematch goes to 168 beats Bute and then beats the winner of the Super 6 then goes up to LHW and beats Dawson. And, then goes up to HW and wins a title.

Are you not going to put Martinez #1 because Floyd and Pac didn't lose? While they took the path of least resistance Martinez would of fought the harder comp.

Honestly IMO, and again P4P is all an opinion, right now I see it as a 1a 1b scenario. Both deserve the #1 spot. So I have it 1a and 1b and you could put either in any spot you want.

And, please explain to me The Ring logic? With having Donaire and Caballero in the top 10? And, you think they're using logic? Donaire #4? come on man, but hey is all an opinion no logic needed.

[B.U.R.N.E.R]

Martinez will ko Williams should they fight again, he likely won't beat Floyd, and will be lucky to beat Cintron......maybe 8th or 9th at best

No all on 3 points.

[nj_evoixgsr]

Floyd's back where he belongs.

bscene is straight horse**** move. how you going to put floyd back where he belongs and not put him back to #2. how do you beat #3 and win #1. now i know you dudes are ******.

didn't even take a second look at reality before making your biased decisions. that's why people think americans are ******. good job.

[kidrak]

oh, thanks for pointing out 'the' as the only reason i had it all wrong. thanks mr english teacher, why don't you go back to your classroom and play boss!

what?? i didnt coment about the "the"!!!

[kidrak]

THE RING RATINGS - As of May 4, 2010

Pound For Pound
All Weights
1. Manny Pacquiao
Country: Philippines (General Santos City) Record: 51-3-2 (38 KOs)Ranking: This Week: #1 | Last Week: #1 | Weeks On List: 334 Titles: WBO, The Ring
2. Floyd Mayweather Jr.
Country: USA (Las Vegas, Nevada) Record: 41-0-0 (25 KOs)Ranking: This Week: #2 | Last Week: #2 | Weeks On List: 32
3. Juan Manuel Marquez
Country: Mexico Record: 50-5-1 (37 KOs)Ranking: This Week: #3 | Last Week: #4 | Weeks On List: 164 Titles: WBA, WBO, The Ring
4. Nonito Donaire
Country: USA (San Leandro, Calif.) Record: 23-1-0 (15 KOs)Ranking: This Week: #4 | Last Week: #5 | Weeks On List: 53
5. Shane Mosley
Country: USA (Las Vegas, Nevada) Record: 46-6-0 (39 KOs)Ranking: This Week: #5 | Last Week: #3 | Weeks On List: 67 Titles: WBA
6. Chad Dawson
Country: USA (New Haven, Conn.) Record: 29-0-0 (17 KOs)Ranking: This Week: #6 | Last Week: #8 | Weeks On List: 26
7. Paul Williams
Country: USA (Augusta, Ga.) Record: 38-1-0 (27 KOs)Ranking: This Week: #7 | Last Week: #9 | Weeks On List: 26
8. Sergio Martinez
Country: Argentina Record: 44-2-2 (24 KOs)Ranking: This Week: #8 | Last Week: - | Weeks On List: 1 Titles: WBC, The Ring
9. Pongsaklek Wonjongkam
Country: Thailand Record: 75-3-1 (39 KOs)Ranking: This Week: #9 | Last Week: - | Weeks On List: 1 Titles: WBC, The Ring
10. Celestino Caballero
Country: Panama Record: 34-2-0 (23 KOs)Ranking: This Week: #10 | Last Week: #10 | Weeks On List: 67 Titles: WBA

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I lost respect w/ Cliff Rold, what a very narrow minded basis to consider...

After a win which was dominant both in terms of skill and physical mastery, Floyd Mayweather made clear what was hinted at in his win over Juan Manuel Marquez last year.

He’s back.

More to the point, he never really left. When he played like he had for a brief period between 2008 and 2009, he was seen by many as the best fight in the world pound-for-pound with only one real competitor.
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First of all, here in BScene I have temporarily stopped entertaining many nonsense analysis, bull**** questions, trading of narrow minded ideas from many idiots around like the Mayweathers & Mayweather fans, etc...Secondly, to compare Pac w/ Floyd for me is not hard to think & analyse...Why? In terms of accomplishments, common opponents, elite opponents, excitement, sportsmanship inside & outside the ring, skills, etc., mostly Pac overpowers Floyd...Boxing expert's analysis like the respected boxing historian Bert Sugar & Larry Merchant's analysis simply understand & favors Pacman in many ways....

1.Accomplishments
Pac has 7 world titles in 7 different divisions but Floyd has only 5, Pac is the only boxer w/ 4 lineal titles, 3X Ring's Fighter of the Year while Floyd has 1, 3X Boxing Writers Association of America Fighter of the Year while Floyd has 1, Pac is the Fighter of the Decade, etc...

2.Elite Oppositions
For me, one could be called an elite fighter by simply fighting his fellow elite fighters by winning & even losing competitively...Elite fighters were battle tested among the bests, champion of champions or potential ATG...The world knew Pacman fights the bests there could be as his accomplishments speak for him while we already knew who is Floyd by the quality of his oppositions...Shane could be one of the elite fighters to test Floyd, but the Moseley who fight Floyd last May 1 was not the Shane we expected of...Yes he rocked Floyd in the 2nd rd, w/c only showed Floyd was hittable & exposed his vulnerability but he looks old & tired even his the one hitting Floyd in the 2nd rd...Another supposed elite opponent of Floyd, Juan Manuel Marquez, what happened was that JMM has the heart & skills to beat Floyd, but it's his 1st time to fight at the weight of 143lbs, JMM was not simply effective in gaining that extra weight unlike Manny, Armstrong, Roy Jones, etc...At the same time Floyd has succeed for every advantage he could find to make his victory impressive, Floyd cheats w/ the weight at 146lbs...

3.With common opponents, we knew exactly what happened & how they both fair w/ common oppositions, Pac fought JMM at his comfortable weight competitively w/ a victory & a draw while Floyd has succeed for every advantage who could get against JMM, Floyd only won a split decision against Oscar while Pac overcoming extra 2 weight division & Oscar going down 1 weight division both facing odds, Pac annihilated Oscar into retirement, Hatton while gaining the extra weight fought Floyd competitively until he was tko in the 9th rd while Hatton was undefeated at 140lbs facing Pac but Pac brutally knock out him flat in the 2nd rd...

These different factors that resulted to many victories, breaking records, brutal knock outs, greatness, etc., reflects how extraordinary skills were being applied...This only showed how a fighter displayed his skills, but the question is, who will be considered P4P King...Who has a better result w/ common oppositions, who has the will to fight elites & the bests there could be & proven successful along the way, who was favored by the boxing experts analysis, who was successful against all odds...I believe its pretty obvious to shout that it is Pacquiao the P4P King, future Hall of Famer, one of the 5 Greatest of All Time...

No need for me to explain further cause we knew already how the other factors will reflect both fighters...

[WalkerSmith1921]

Manny Reluctant Pacquiao

Nothing was prime about Josh clottey.....who you fooling

Corrections my boy.....Nothing was prime about Josh Clottey or Miguel Cotto; because like it or not, Miguel Cotto was knocked out against Margarito whether he cheated or not. Plus, Cotto should have truley lost against Clottey.
On the other hand, Clottey has never won against a good boxer. He lost against Margarito and didn't seem to want to fight against Cotto even though it could have been an easy win for him.
Manny Reluctant Pacquiao is my new name for him, because he is reluctant to fight a fighter with a winning record!!!

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Mayweather is the P4P champ and until Manny fights him he will stay there.