After Arreola-Adamek I have noticed a new trend has started

[Ryn0]

Essentially, the weight difference between Haye and Adamek who weigh 220lb and Vitali and Wlad who weigh 245-250 is the same as Marquez at Lightweight against Lucian Bute at SMW.

The fact that guys like Haye who was outweighed by something like 100lbs against Valuev actually managed to win is nothing short of amazing. Even if Valuev has a poor skillset, you would still favour a 40+ Evander Holyfield over say a 122lb fighter like Cabellero. I know its not an exact science, and its a poor extrapolation comparing the two weight divisions but thats the sort of difference were talking and it's still quite exciting.

[Pirao]

Essentially, the weight difference between Haye and Adamek who weigh 220lb and Vitali and Wlad who weigh 245-250 is the same as Marquez at Lightweight against Lucian Bute at SMW.

The fact that guys like Haye who was outweighed by something like 100lbs against Valuev actually managed to win is nothing short of amazing. Even if Valuev has a poor skillset, you would still favour a 40+ Evander Holyfield over say a 122lb fighter like Cabellero. I know its not an exact science, and its a poor extrapolation comparing the two weight divisions but thats the sort of difference were talking and it's still quite exciting.

That's BS and you know it. There's a point when being bigger stops being an advantage and starts being a disadvantage. Valuev is a perfect example, sure he is big but he's slow as **** because of it, and doesn't even hit that hard, not to mention his poor coordination. The bigger you get, the less the differences in weight mean.

Also, according to many people the Klitschkos suck, if they suck there's no need for higher weight divisions, surely someone who doesn't suck will appear eventually and dethrone them, right? Or do you think there will never be a Frazier, or Tyson again? So, if you think the Klitschkos suck, there's no need for a SHW division. If you think there's a need for a SHW division, you think, even if you don't admit it, that Klitschkos are too good for good smaller men. So, which one is it?

[Rosseboi]

No, the other poster got it right. Have a 225-230 max limit at HW and unlimited for superHW.

It would make HW boxing more open and interesting.

Hang on hang on......nobody was saying this **** when Lewis, Carnera, Foreman and Bowe were dominating.

All of a sudden no one wants to fight the Klits and "omg we need another weight class!"

If a fighter is lighter, then they're generally faster therefore if they are skilled have just as much chance as the next guy. Tyson is a prime example. Manny is another. Bernard Hopkins one more. Mayweather. All went up through the ranges.

People say Tyson would kill a Klitschko then say we need a SHW division because they are always winning. Make up your minds!!

[Ryn0]

That's BS and you know it. There's a point when being bigger stops being an advantage and starts being a disadvantage. Valuev is a perfect example, sure he is big but he's slow as **** because of it, and doesn't even hit that hard, not to mention his poor coordination. The bigger you get, the less the differences in weight mean.

Also, according to many people the Klitschkos suck, if they suck there's no need for higher weight divisions, surely someone who doesn't suck will appear eventually and dethrone them, right? Or do you think there will never be a Frazier, or Tyson again? So, if you think the Klitschkos suck, there's no need for a SHW division. If you think there's a need for a SHW division, you think, even if you don't admit it, that Klitschkos are too good for good smaller men. So, which one is it?

I don't think you got my point, I was saying that despite being bigger the smaller guys can still compete because at a point Size stops being an advantage. But it doesn't work when comparing other weight classes which is why I used Holyfield and Cabellero.

Which is why HW should still be one division.

[TheGreatA]

I think the contenders should fight between each other to decide the worthiest challenger for the Klitschko brothers.

I will take the Klitschko brothers fighting 2 no hopers in order to have one well-established and interesting challenger instead of 3 title fights against uninteresting but potentially able challengers which the likes of Haye and Adamek are at the moment. To be honest I don't think they stand a chance as they are now but I may change my mind after seeing more of them against quality opposition.

[nachorjj]

More and more people are clamoring for Adamek, Haye, and Povetkin to avoid the Klitschkos and fight between themselves, since those would be even fights. How can some people be so pathetic? They actually want them to duck the best in the division, instead of try to become the best.

I guess that's their new strategy, since noone can beat the Klitschkos, make the top contenders duck them so they can't get all the belts.

I agree with you

[TheGreatA]

The Klitschko brothers could have as many title defenses as they want, it's not really going to change their standing in the public's eyes. What they need is a career-defining fight against an outstanding challenger. Haye, Adamek, Povetkin, in the future Boytsov, any of them could be it, but they are not as of now.

[Pirao]

I don't think you got my point, I was saying that despite being bigger the smaller guys can still compete because at a point Size stops being an advantage. But it doesn't work when comparing other weight classes which is why I used Holyfield and Cabellero.

Which is why HW should still be one division.

Yes, I misunderstood you. You hold the same view as I do, so I agree with you.

[Pirao]

The Klitschko brothers could have as many title defenses as they want, it's not really going to change their standing in the public's eyes. What they need is a career-defining fight against an outstanding challenger. Haye, Adamek, Povetkin, in the future Boytsov, any of them could be it, but they are not as of now.

I disagree. Long periods of dominance make you great too, just like Joe Louis or Larry Holmes had.

[shade darkar]

fcuk off pirao. you dont know what the fcuk your talking about. just a bad nuthugger.