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Originally posted by Pass...SoCal View PostThen why did Floyd pay JMM 600 K? Just because??
****** people never cease to amaze me. Not their ******ity itself, because there's plenty of ****** people out there. That's just life. But how they swear they're f'kn smart. They say ****** **** and actually believe it. Straight comedy right there.
he paid jmm that money cause it was a contract between the two of them for a catch weight, but the fight was set at welter and floyd came in at the welter limit.
floyd has never come in overweight for a fight.
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Originally posted by blank916 View PostIf forrest, cotto, and winky found a way to beat mosley floyd sure a **** will too. People want floyd to loose so bad that they don't care how or who. Mosley has little to no chance to win. Floyd will win easy and we'll be doing all this wishful floyd loosing talk all over again with someone new
Mosley fought Wright twice at 154 lbs. Wright was the naturally bigger man and was also being avoided by many elite fighters when Shane fought him (second fight was very competitive, actually scored a tie on one judges card). Not many fighters have looked good against Wright other than Fernando Vargas (who Mosley beat twice although he was shot at this point) Hopkins during certain spurts although he was the much larger man, and of course Paul Williams. Again, when one looks at Mayweather's resume you don't see fighters on it that were avoided or who were known as fighters that you don't look good against (even if you win) like Winky Wright. This again speaks volumes about the different mentalities the two fighters (Mosley and Mayweather) possess. One has truly been willing to fight the most challenging fighters while the other hasn't displayed this same mentality. Mayweather still has some time to do this before his career ends.
Cotto barely was able to get a decision win against a 36 yr old Mosley when he was 27. What does this tell you about what might have happened had he fought a Mosley who was in his prime? Cotto barely won this fight and after this fight I knew his skills weren't as good as advertised and wasn't surprised when other fighters (one who probably cheated) including the smaller Pacquiao were able to defeat him. But regardless of that the point remains that Mosley was willing to fight a younger, prime fighter at his advanced age of 36. Sure, you can say he had nothing to lose so of course he'd take the fight but could you see Mayweather doing the same thing? When Floyd is 36 do you see him fighting a much younger fighter who is favored to beat him? In 2013 when Floyd is 36 could you envision him fighting Devon Alexander who will be 26? I don't think so, especially if he is still making a concious effort to fight opponents who aren't really threats to blemish his undefeated record.
Irrespective of how he might look in sparring I hope that on May 1st Mosley is able to fight as well as he can. He is old but he is far from being shot. Old means that you might not be consistent from fight to fight, some fights you might look like your younger prime self and other fights you might look a little slow. Being shot means you can't sustain any consistency, not only from one fight to the next but even from one round to another (Roy Jones Jr). Mosley is still very much capable of looking like his prime self for an entire fight. If he can fight as well as he has in the recent past he will present problems for Floyd. I am looking forward to seeing a competitive fight and I don't see it being a one-sided Mayweather victory. Two of the three fighters who have defeated Mosley were avoided fighters who had physical advantages (Forrest's height/length, Wright being a naturally larger fighter at 154). Cotto also won and I'd attribute this to him being a solid fighter who was in his prime. Mosley's five losses (to these three different opponents) are not bad losses. He has never lost to a boxer who fights like Mayweather (superb mover) because in the past he possessed enough quickness to keep up with boxers like Floyd. We'll see on May 1st if he still has enough of his quickness to get close to Floyd and land his power shots. I think he does still have enough (nothing I've seen from him recently indicates otherwise and he seems to be very motivated to beat Mayweather) and look forward to viewing a competitive fight...
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Originally posted by Wukillabeez78 View PostHow many other boxers fought a prime Vernon Forrest? Not many. Vernon Forrest was as avoided in his prime as Paul Williams is today (both are very tall/lanky fighters who were/are superb boxers). Shane was unbeaten and on top of the world at the time and could have avoided a fight with Forrest like other boxers. He fought him twice though (second fight was competitive) and this says a lot about the kind of mentality and heart he has. When is Mayweather going to fight a young prime fighter that presents the same kind of stylistic problems that someone like Vernon Forrest did for Mosley? That fighter currently certainly exists in the form of Paul Williams. We will see if Mayweather has the heart to fight someone like that who has physical advantages over him. We know Mosley had the heart to do it when he was undefeated and regarded as the best as Mayweather currently is. People ask why do so many seem to hate on Mayweather? I don't hate him (he is one of the most talented boxers I've ever seen) but their are fighters out there who could beat him. I want to see him fight those fighters. If he is truly the best ever as he likes to claim he will prevail. Mosley was in the same position and took those challenges. That's why many boxing fans root against Mayweather so ardently, because he hasn't taken those same challenges (they are out there) and self-admittedly only fights for the $$$...
Mosley fought Wright twice at 154 lbs. Wright was the naturally bigger man and was also being avoided by many elite fighters when Shane fought him (second fight was very competitive, actually scored a tie on one judges card). Not many fighters have looked good against Wright other than Fernando Vargas (who Mosley beat twice although he was shot at this point) Hopkins during certain spurts although he was the much larger man, and of course Paul Williams. Again, when one looks at Mayweather's resume you don't see fighters on it that were avoided or who were known as fighters that you don't look good against (even if you win) like Winky Wright. This again speaks volumes about the different mentalities the two fighters (Mosley and Mayweather) possess. One has truly been willing to fight the most challenging fighters while the other hasn't displayed this same mentality. Mayweather still has some time to do this before his career ends.
Cotto barely was able to get a decision win against a 36 yr old Mosley when he was 27. What does this tell you about what might have happened had he fought a Mosley who was in his prime? Cotto barely won this fight and after this fight I knew his skills weren't as good as advertised and wasn't surprised when other fighters (one who probably cheated) including the smaller Pacquiao were able to defeat him. But regardless of that the point remains that Mosley was willing to fight a younger, prime fighter at his advanced age of 36. Sure, you can say he had nothing to lose so of course he'd take the fight but could you see Mayweather doing the same thing? When Floyd is 36 do you see him fighting a much younger fighter who is favored to beat him? In 2013 when Floyd is 36 could you envision him fighting Devon Alexander who will be 26? I don't think so, especially if he is still making a concious effort to fight opponents who aren't really threats to blemish his undefeated record.
Irrespective of how he might look in sparring I hope that on May 1st Mosley is able to fight as well as he can. He is old but he is far from being shot. Old means that you might not be consistent from fight to fight, some fights you might look like your younger prime self and other fights you might look a little slow. Being shot means you can't sustain any consistency, not only from one fight to the next but even from one round to another (Roy Jones Jr). Mosley is still very much capable of looking like his prime self for an entire fight. If he can fight as well as he has in the recent past he will present problems for Floyd. I am looking forward to seeing a competitive fight and I don't see it being a one-sided Mayweather victory. Two of the three fighters who have defeated Mosley were avoided fighters who had physical advantages (Forrest's height/length, Wright being a naturally larger fighter at 154). Cotto also won and I'd attribute this to him being a solid fighter who was in his prime. Mosley's five losses (to these three different opponents) are not bad losses. He has never lost to a boxer who fights like Mayweather (superb mover) because in the past he possessed enough quickness to keep up with boxers like Floyd. We'll see on May 1st if he still has enough of his quickness to get close to Floyd and land his power shots. I think he does still have enough (nothing I've seen from him recently indicates otherwise and he seems to be very motivated to beat Mayweather) and look forward to viewing a competitive fight...
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Originally posted by Wukillabeez78 View PostHow many other boxers fought a prime Vernon Forrest? Not many. Vernon Forrest was as avoided in his prime as Paul Williams is today (both are very tall/lanky fighters who were/are superb boxers). Shane was unbeaten and on top of the world at the time and could have avoided a fight with Forrest like other boxers. He fought him twice though (second fight was competitive) and this says a lot about the kind of mentality and heart he has. When is Mayweather going to fight a young prime fighter that presents the same kind of stylistic problems that someone like Vernon Forrest did for Mosley? That fighter currently certainly exists in the form of Paul Williams. We will see if Mayweather has the heart to fight someone like that who has physical advantages over him. We know Mosley had the heart to do it when he was undefeated and regarded as the best as Mayweather currently is. People ask why do so many seem to hate on Mayweather? I don't hate him (he is one of the most talented boxers I've ever seen) but their are fighters out there who could beat him. I want to see him fight those fighters. If he is truly the best ever as he likes to claim he will prevail. Mosley was in the same position and took those challenges. That's why many boxing fans root against Mayweather so ardently, because he hasn't taken those same challenges (they are out there) and self-admittedly only fights for the $$$...
Mosley fought Wright twice at 154 lbs. Wright was the naturally bigger man and was also being avoided by many elite fighters when Shane fought him (second fight was very competitive, actually scored a tie on one judges card). Not many fighters have looked good against Wright other than Fernando Vargas (who Mosley beat twice although he was shot at this point) Hopkins during certain spurts although he was the much larger man, and of course Paul Williams. Again, when one looks at Mayweather's resume you don't see fighters on it that were avoided or who were known as fighters that you don't look good against (even if you win) like Winky Wright. This again speaks volumes about the different mentalities the two fighters (Mosley and Mayweather) possess. One has truly been willing to fight the most challenging fighters while the other hasn't displayed this same mentality. Mayweather still has some time to do this before his career ends.
Cotto barely was able to get a decision win against a 36 yr old Mosley when he was 27. What does this tell you about what might have happened had he fought a Mosley who was in his prime? Cotto barely won this fight and after this fight I knew his skills weren't as good as advertised and wasn't surprised when other fighters (one who probably cheated) including the smaller Pacquiao were able to defeat him. But regardless of that the point remains that Mosley was willing to fight a younger, prime fighter at his advanced age of 36. Sure, you can say he had nothing to lose so of course he'd take the fight but could you see Mayweather doing the same thing? When Floyd is 36 do you see him fighting a much younger fighter who is favored to beat him? In 2013 when Floyd is 36 could you envision him fighting Devon Alexander who will be 26? I don't think so, especially if he is still making a concious effort to fight opponents who aren't really threats to blemish his undefeated record.
Irrespective of how he might look in sparring I hope that on May 1st Mosley is able to fight as well as he can. He is old but he is far from being shot. Old means that you might not be consistent from fight to fight, some fights you might look like your younger prime self and other fights you might look a little slow. Being shot means you can't sustain any consistency, not only from one fight to the next but even from one round to another (Roy Jones Jr). Mosley is still very much capable of looking like his prime self for an entire fight. If he can fight as well as he has in the recent past he will present problems for Floyd. I am looking forward to seeing a competitive fight and I don't see it being a one-sided Mayweather victory. Two of the three fighters who have defeated Mosley were avoided fighters who had physical advantages (Forrest's height/length, Wright being a naturally larger fighter at 154). Cotto also won and I'd attribute this to him being a solid fighter who was in his prime. Mosley's five losses (to these three different opponents) are not bad losses. He has never lost to a boxer who fights like Mayweather (superb mover) because in the past he possessed enough quickness to keep up with boxers like Floyd. We'll see on May 1st if he still has enough of his quickness to get close to Floyd and land his power shots. I think he does still have enough (nothing I've seen from him recently indicates otherwise and he seems to be very motivated to beat Mayweather) and look forward to viewing a competitive fight...
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Originally posted by Hotbox2 View PostYou hit the nail on the head! I agree with you 100%..These people want to see Floyd lose so bad they don't care if a fighter is on Pacroids or whatever. But they are doing a lot of wishful thinking and that's all it's going to be. Floyd will win easily
all the diehard floyd fans MUST love calzaghe and wlad klitschko... LOL.
slap-happy calzaghe had a perfect record, and wlad stinks out the fight and plays it safe all night... those are the same characteristics diehard floyd fans defend.
no one will argue floyd is the MOST gifted and talented boxer of his era, but saying he will easily beat mosley is pretty bizarre. at best, floyd would get a SD in a close fight... and thats assuming shane shows up in top form.
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Originally posted by mr.thraz View Postain't nobody ******.
he paid jmm that money cause it was a contract between the two of them for a catch weight, but the fight was set at welter and floyd came in at the welter limit.
floyd has never come in overweight for a fight.
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