I'm not putting no fighter above Ali, sorry
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haters will hate, but if floyd beats mosley, hes the best of all time...
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I can tell right off the bat that this isn't worth debating, but ali fought everyone, even long after he should have stopped fighting he fought everyone. He fought a sonny liston who was cheating, and won, He KTFO of a prime George Foreman, and i'm not talking the 90 year old, minister, creator of the easy bake oven grill version of Foreman, but the meanest baddest kicked the living **** out of a prime joe frazier George Mutha ****in Foreman. Lets bring up marvin hagler as well, Marvin fought everyone, if they beat him, he came back and beat them worse than they ever beat him, thats probably why so many people lost to Hagler, they feared what would happen to them in a rematch. Except Sugar Ray Leonard who refused a rematch with hagler, but honestly that was Sugar ray's choice, he was retired pretty much anyway. Can Mayweather be the Greatest of All Time, yes, will he, no.... He has to Fight manny, he should have fought cotto, he should have fought mosely a long time ago, he has to fight pwill, he has to fight margaritto, he has to fight mosely, the bums on his resume should be the level of cintron and berto.
Floyd (until manny) is most likely the best of our era, but if he wants to be concidered ATG, you have to clean out the division, in real fights, not fantasy fights, you can't leave one bit of doubt about who could have beat you, or who you didn't fight.
Notice that the ATGs fought everyone alive in their era and beat them, the only fantasy fights you make with guys like Hagler, Ali, Robinson are fighters that fought years later. In floyds career you make fantasy fights with fighters that are still active, and thats BS, there should be NO DOUBT, if you want to be ATG, NO DOUBT.
That is all
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Originally posted by Haterfree View PostFloyds fans have little to do with why people hate him. Floyds skin color has a lot more to with it.
Tyson was black and loved and he even did bad things outside the ring. Jordan, Lebron, Kobe all black but people still love them no matter what race. Our president is now black. Is the US going under a riot cause of that? So stop with that ***** excuse of skin color.
People hate Floyd cause of his attitude. His fans are like all other fans. But the fact Floyd talks **** and doesnt fight the best all the time is why hes hated. That skin color excuse is bull****. We in 2010 ffs. That color **** in the past, grow up.
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Originally posted by gratz_the_king View Posti dont care what anyone says..if floyd beats mosley convincingly or even T/KO's him ...hes better than ali ...i dont see how anyone can argue against his resume at that point...
and ye, im dead serious.
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Floyd is a **** with a big mouth. He talks like he's a killer and then fights all timid. I dont like hypocrits. He knows that if he talked like the nice,slick lil boxer he really is, noone will buy his boxing matches. It's why he created the villain role for himself. His style does not sell tickets. Most people who buy his boxing matches want to see him lose. If he'd go in the ring and walk his opponents down and destroy them,he'd get more props from me. Im sick of this insecure baby talking about how much money he has. I DONT GIVE A ****!!!! If you talk like a killer then be a killer. Dont be content to go to the scorecards. He also thinks he can make up rules now. I want to like the cat. He makes it sooooo hard. I could argue the only reason he has fans is cause of his skin color. These are the reasons I root against him. That blood testing bull**** just added to it.
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Quick question for people who think floyd is better than Ali. Who did Ali Duck? Answer, No one. Who did floyd duck? (your answer will be no one, cause he had valid excuses not to fight these people) Who did Ali have valid excuses not to fight that others concidered ali ducking? Answer - no one ... Who does floyd have valid excuses not to fight but others have concidered it ducking - Cotto, Pwill, Manny, Delahoya II, Margarito, etc
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Originally posted by DIB420 View PostI can tell right off the bat that this isn't worth debating, but ali fought everyone, even long after he should have stopped fighting he fought everyone. He fought a sonny liston who was cheating, and won, He KTFO of a prime George Foreman, and i'm not talking the 90 year old, minister, creator of the easy bake oven grill version of Foreman, but the meanest baddest kicked the living **** out of a prime joe frazier George Mutha ****in Foreman. Lets bring up marvin hagler as well, Marvin fought everyone, if they beat him, he came back and beat them worse than they ever beat him, thats probably why so many people lost to Hagler, they feared what would happen to them in a rematch. Except Sugar Ray Leonard who refused a rematch with hagler, but honestly that was Sugar ray's choice, he was retired pretty much anyway. Can Mayweather be the Greatest of All Time, yes, will he, no.... He has to Fight manny, he should have fought cotto, he should have fought mosely a long time ago, he has to fight pwill, he has to fight margaritto, he has to fight mosely, the bums on his resume should be the level of cintron and berto.
Floyd (until manny) is most likely the best of our era, but if he wants to be concidered ATG, you have to clean out the division, in real fights, not fantasy fights, you can't leave one bit of doubt about who could have beat you, or who you didn't fight.
Notice that the ATGs fought everyone alive in their era and beat them, the only fantasy fights you make with guys like Hagler, Ali, Robinson are fighters that fought years later. In floyds career you make fantasy fights with fighters that are still active, and thats BS, there should be NO DOUBT, if you want to be ATG, NO DOUBT.
That is all
Floyd been an ATG. Hes arguably the best 130 Pounder EVER.
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Originally posted by them_apples View Postgo look at Ali's resume again than. Really isn't much of a debate.
Mosely is 38 years old as well, he's in good shape for a 38..but he's not in his prime. That kinda takes the steam off of it as well. If he beats him though, it puts more money in the ATG bank for him, but def not above Ali.
And Mayweather would have to beat Mosley, Pacquiao and Williams to even sniff the top 5. I doubt he fights Paul or Manny.
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