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    #121
    Originally posted by jrosales13 View Post
    Pac still had unfinished business with JMM though... So why leave 130 and go up to 135 and not wait for JMM? And, fighting Morales was just the same as fighting Judah... Nothing was signed and both had an agreedment before hand. So there is not different... Then only thing that was different is that Zahir Raheem was not good enough to stay on top very long...
    he didn't have to stay at 135 Jro. if pacquaio wanted to make a bold statement, he would have fought raheem. not Morales after a shalacking. Him fighting JMM would have happened anyway because JMM wanted him more than Pacquaio wanted JMM!!!


    also the Judah fight and Morales fight is not the same, Judah was still a champion unfortunately and that deal was just about done (signatures needed) and the people wanted it!!!

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      #122
      Originally posted by cortdawg25 View Post
      i disagree with u on the hatton/margarito comparison. Hatton is still a bigger star than maragrito right now.


      But I agree floyd should have fought Cotto after the hatton fight!
      Hatton is now, but I personally didn;t think he was before Floyd, atleast in the US.

      I would have thought that the Mexicans would have bought the Mayweather fight.

      Who knows though.

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        #123
        Originally posted by letsgobrady View Post
        hatton was more popular than margarito was even in the u.s.at the time that hatton beat tszyu who had margarito beat that compared? hatton's fights were televised in the u.s so he wasn't unknown.margarito became recognized because floyd supposedly was duckin him before that rumor started most people didn't know him and when most people actually seen him fight was against clottey and margarito looked like **** then he lost to williams
        OK if that's the case, then I can't argue.

        Yes Kosta was a big win, but I didn;t think peopel would enjoy that fight because there was a lot fo hugging.

        I would have thought the mexicans would have bought the PPV

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          #124
          Originally posted by jrosales13 View Post
          Baldomir was the lineal champ and Margarito had the #1 ranking at the time.... At worst he was #2 and Floyd was #1 at worst... But, Margarito was rank higher than Judah at the time... Again longest reigning WW champ at the time, had the best WW resume at the time out of all the other top 10 WWs at the time... You're right he was a nobody...
          margarito was never ranked #1.he beat nobody but lewis and cintron and cintron was and still not a proven fighter.he had a draw and a loss to santos what else was he doin? how u the longest reigning ww champ and no one knows you?that **** makes him seem like a overrated fighter

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            #125
            Originally posted by jrosales13 View Post
            Baldomir was the lineal champ and Margarito had the #1 ranking at the time.... At worst he was #2 and Floyd was #1 at worst... But, Margarito was rank higher than Judah at the time... Again longest reigning WW champ at the time, had the best WW resume at the time out of all the other top 10 WWs at the time... You're right he was a nobody...
            From my recollection, margarito decided to cont. to fight Gomez instead of taking a fight with Floyd after Judah loss. but that is here nor there, tell me who Maragrito beat to get his belt....and whatn't it a title eliminator. Now name his defenses: Six heads, Lujan, Cintron. Yeah, he really was a somebody!

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              #126
              Originally posted by cortdawg25 View Post
              he didn't have to stay at 135 Jro. if pacquaio wanted to make a bold statement, he would have fought raheem. not Morales after a shalacking. Him fighting JMM would have happened anyway because JMM wanted him more than Pacquaio wanted JMM!!!


              also the Judah fight and Morales fight is not the same, Judah was still a champion unfortunately and that deal was just about done (signatures needed) and the people wanted it!!!
              I don't undersand why at that time people say JMM wanted Pac more than Pac wanted him. Pac offered him a rematch right after and JMM turned it down and fought for way less money and went all the way to Indonesia to fight a guy who was a nobody at the time... So how did JMM wanted Pac more then what Pac wanted him at the time? And, again you not even looking at the time frame. He was barely at 130 for a whole year at the time... He was at 122 4yrs prior... To ask him to move up to 135 was probably asking too much for a jump...

              And, again Morales and the Judah situation was the damn same situation there is no way you can spin it... Both fights were not signed but were agreed upon... And, just like how people wanted to see Floyd-Judah, people also still wanted to see Pac-Morales... There is nothing different about that situation the only thing different is that Zab had really a paper title but that can cancel out cuz Morales had a victory over Pac... So is the same scenario...

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                #127
                Originally posted by cortdawg25 View Post
                From my recollection, margarito decided to cont. to fight Gomez instead of taking a fight with Floyd after Judah loss. but that is here nor there, tell me who Maragrito beat to get his belt....and whatn't it a title eliminator. Now name his defenses: Six heads, Lujan, Cintron. Yeah, he really was a somebody!
                Were they not ring ****zine top 10 fighters at the time? Was Antonio Diaz not ring ****zine top 10 fighter at the time? So now rankings don't count? OK.........

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                  #128
                  Originally posted by cortdawg25 View Post
                  he didn't have to stay at 135 Jro. if pacquaio wanted to make a bold statement, he would have fought raheem. not Morales after a shalacking. Him fighting JMM would have happened anyway because JMM wanted him more than Pacquaio wanted JMM!!!


                  also the Judah fight and Morales fight is not the same, Judah was still a champion unfortunately and that deal was just about done (signatures needed) and the people wanted it!!!
                  i think it was done.i remember a vid on youtube with zab outside in the winter talkin **** about floyd about how he was gonna whip his ass and in the vid he said i'm not worried about that baldomir fight thats light

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                    #129
                    Pac will come up with any excuse not to fight Mosley or Mayweather.

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                      #130
                      Originally posted by letsgobrady View Post
                      i think it was done.i remember a vid on youtube with zab outside in the winter talkin **** about floyd about how he was gonna whip his ass and in the vid he said i'm not worried about that baldomir fight thats light
                      It was not a done deal... After the fact they re-wrote the whole contract over and Zab got less money cuz of his lost to Baldomir... I don't know why people keep saying it was a done deal. No it wasn't... When Zab lost Floyd was thinking of fighting Cory Spinks...

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