Comments Thread For: Super Six Deserves Better Than This

[Rome-By-Ko]

im not too bothered to be honest

the whole idea of the tourney i slightly flawed now,due to dirrell getting robbed in frochs hometown,but i still think its going to be very exciting,even though it may take a while

dirrell getting rob dirrell robbed him self with his running it could have been a great fight if he was boxing and sitting down on his punches but he was running untill the later rounds that's when i had him winning some round's anyway i was impress by ward and the king i like forch he is always ready to mix it up i got him to win this whole thing unless ward get's to him and outboxes him

[cheering]

showtime already has better original programming,

so, shouldn't hbo try to defend themselves ?

just goes to show that if you are creative, you can

always find a way to do more, with less...

[FLY TY]

i did'nt like the format period. it should've been 8 fighters and a double elimination tourney with at the end somebody would have all belts that were involved. but i do like some of the fighters.

cosign this.

[JakeNDaBox]

Everyone just needs to get over this counter programming crap. My God, the NFL, effectively only has 2 slots where 90% of their games are played in. Football is way more popular than boxing. Do football fans whine that all 16 NFL games should be spread out over 16 different time slots so they can watch all of them? No. Deal with it. Get a DVR and record the other one and watch it after. This argument people have about overlapping fights is leftover from the days before DVR's. Watching one thing while recording something else is very easy to do now. It just doesn't hold water anymore.

First off, when boxing can return to where they can even mess with the NFL's ratings, then this becomes relevant.

But moving on from that - yes, Sunday affernoons are saturated and life goes on. But the NFL is a package. Yes, one network competes with the other, but the league is promoted as a whole, whereas HBO and Showtime are in the business of only promoting their own individual products.

Not to mention that every major publication in the country has regional staff writers that can cover every football game. Every NFL team has its own gaggle of beat writers. Boxing doesn't carry that priority with those same publications, and is basically a sport that survives primarily through online coverage.

And why doesn't anyone whine when Shobox overlaps with ESPN on Friday nights? OH MY GOD, the horror. What is Showtime doing. Are they counterprogramming ESPN? ESPN owns Friday nights, don't they?

This is dumb and you just being a smart ass.

Shobox has run at 11PMET for as long as its been on air. They moved to Friday nights five years ago, but at the time ESPN2 FNF was still airing at 9PM ET on a consistent basis. Not so much these days, where FNF no longer seems to have a set time slot. Last year was a mess - there was a stretch towards the end where it aired at a different time for six straight weeks.

So if anything, the counterprogramming argument would be the other way around - although the truth is that the time slot moves are indicative of ESPN never making boxing a priority.

And if you are going to say HBO knew what it was doing with putting their April 17th date against the tournament, then, you need to make the same argument back at Showtime. Adamek-Arreola was already set when Showtime moved the Super 6 date to the 24th. So, why isn't anyone up in arms about that?

I don't disagree that the move back to the 24th was made to stick it back, both to HBO and to Goossen. But you know what? Goossen didn't sign a multi-million dollar deal with HBO with the promise of actually doing his part to promote a tournament. And having your fighter in one fight on HBO directly opposite your own fight on Showtime is NOT doing your job as a promoter - it's simply auctioning off your fighters to the highest bidder.

So now, Goossen is forced to choose between Ward-Green and Arreola-Adamek, when the more fan friendly move would've been to bring the latter fight to Showtime and package it with Ward-Green as one kick-ass doubleheader.

For what it's worth, the better argument is Showtime moving back Abraham-Dirrell to March 27, which conflicts with a B.A.D. telecast, while March 20 remains vacant boxing-wise on both networks (though HBO will most likely run Pac-Clottey replay that evening).

Personally I love it when there are multiple fights on the same night. I'd much rather watch 4 fights than 1 or 2.

As do I, but so long as it's competitive in a good way. but anyway, the point of my article wasn't merely that HBO and Showtime are counterprogramming one another. It's that promoters like Goossen and DiBella aren't living up to their end of the agreement they signed (and accepted payment for) when this tournament first began. DiBella's a straight B-side promoter anyway, so I suppose it's to be expected. But both he and Goossen have conducted business in take-the-money-and-run fashion - hence the tournament deserving better than the treatment it's getting.

[Targaryen]

That's a good idea actually since Froch-Kessler is the only fight with a confirmed venue although why have split site. Would be a massive event if they had both fights at the same venue.

Not to mention that Froch'll get destroyed in PPV sales by Khan if he goes head to head on the 15th. People know Khan, they know Sky Box Office.....they don't know about that Primetime nonsense, there's no publicity for that and the fact Khan's a bigger name anyway....it'd just be plain ****** to go up against Khan and Sky because Froch just wouldn't win. Froch needs to get himself back on ITV for a few fights, then if he's still champion Sky will probably sign him up and give him the publicity he'd deserve.