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Who is the better fighter, who has the better legacy...Tito or Oscar?
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Originally posted by shemmueit is my opinion that dlh got the decisions in the quartey fight and in the whitaker fight as is also my opinion tito has a better legacy so i must be puertorican ?? your opinion is that dlh has the better legacy so you must be mexican ?? and anyone that likes hopkins must be black ??? . this is the most ignorant thing people say on these post .
Forgive me for being so damn racist, by the way Im a plain jane white boy who will phrase thngs differntly the second time around with you, I don't like offending people, especiall people that are wiser than me.
Let me get this straight, you think Ike Quartey beat Oscar, you think Pernell Whitaker beat Oscar and you think Felix Sturm beat Oscar...I think you are 1 for 3...
And I gurantee you if Ike Quartey knocked Oscar down in two different rounds and almost stopped him in the 12th and Oscar got the decision you would be citing all of this and going crazy to boot...this all happened but it was done by Oscar not against Oscar...
Again a gift decision for the whitaker and quartey fights...that is a ****ing joke, watch the fights damn it....man you must be polish...
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Oscar did way better against Hopkins than what Tito did. Oscar is the only fighter to have won more than 4 rounds against B-Hop in 7 years. When he fought Tito, tito olny had one round on the scorcards.
I think great fighters have a difning moment in their careers which makes them great like Ali with Foreman, Foreman vs Moore, Ray Robinson vs. Jake lamotta. I think Oscar's shinning moments came against Vargas where he KO a dangerious and bigger guy, and against Quartey where it was a close fight and Oscar came in the 12th round and knocked him down and threw like a millions punches (i thought it was the greatest moment evr)
I also think his wins agianst Mosley II was one of his best performances in his career. He completly outboxed Mosley. Also the Tito fight where he won by a wide margin.
Tito's shinning moments have come against William Joppy (journeyman) and against Mayorga ( a welterweight). Camacho was never a great fighter and Pernell was 35 when he fought Tito. Pernell also Tested positive for cocain in his previous fight. He also lost his last 4 fights. You might make a argument when he fought Vargas, but he was bigger and more stronger than Vargas as well as the favorite. Vargas was a real young fighter at the time (22years old)
David reid ony had 14 fights when he faced Tito and his toughest fight before that was against Kevin Kelley.
I think Trinidads greatest win cam against Yory Boy Campas
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Originally posted by .::|ULTIMATE|::.I think Oscars is, but its funny how strikingly similar their path to fame is...
They both beat their countries legends when they were old, Tito beat camacho, Oscar beat chavez.
They both sorta re-launched their career by beating skill limited tough guys and made them fight past their real weights. Tito Mayorga, Oscar Gatti.
both beat old drug damaged whitaker, and didnt look good doing it.
Both had some trouble with Vargas before stopping him and both got stopped against hopkins.
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Oscar De la Hoya baby! Hes the best P4P boxer in the past ten years talent wise. The only thing that hurts his legacy is the 2 robberies (Tito,Mosely2) and the 160 stint, but everybody knows he shouldnt have moved up that high, but hes got that heart of a champ so he had to. And plus......hes the Golden Boy what else do I gotta say!
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Oscar has a more complete fighting style. He is a boxer who can punch. You can't really say Trinidad can box unless he is fighting someone with no defense like Mayorga. Trinidad loves to get into a puncher's brawl with every opponent and he could probably beat many fighters that way except great boxers. All of Trinidad's losses have been lopsided and against skillful boxers. You can't really say that about Oscar even getting KTFO by Hop's he was still in the fight up until then. Both loses to SSM were close and the Trinidad loss was a close fight he should have won. Even the Sturm fight in which I think Oscar lost was a close fight.
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