Manny Pacquiao: The Most Overrated Fighter of All Time

[Fearless BONG]

Lord Huey III BA, BSCI and BAR



Manny Pacquiao, an Overrated Cherry-Picker? Think Again...
Written on January 29, 2010
LAS VEGAS - NOVEMBER 13: Manny Pacquiao weighs in for his upcoming bout against WBO welterweight champion Miguel Cotto at the MGM Grand Garden Arena on November 13, 2009 in Las Vegas, Nevada. Pacquiao and Cotto will meet in a WBO welterweight title fight at the MGM Grand on November 14. Pacquiao weighed in at 144 pounds and Cotto weighed in at 145 pounds. (Photo by Al Bello/Getty Images) Al Bello/Getty Images
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It is impossible for a human being to be completely devoid of opinion.

Every person who knows anything about today’s boxing world has an opinion of Manny Pacquiao, and everyone seems to be eager to share it.

While the majority of fans agree that Pacquiao has earned his place as one of the greats in boxing history, a growing number of critics have a lot to say to the contrary.

Critics continue to throw jabs, hooks, and haymakers in their attempts to discredit Manny Pacquiao. Most punches are off target--catching nothing but air. Each jab can be countered with real fact.

Here are the most popular statements that have been circulated in attempts to nullify Pacquiao’s achievements:

“He can’t be one of the greatest. He’s been knocked out before.?br />
Even Joe Louis was KOd by Max Schmeling.

Joe Frazier was TKOd by Ali.

“Marco Antonio Barrera was past his prime.?br />
He was 29 when Manny TKOd him in their first meeting.

“Juan Manuel Marquez really beat Pacquiao in both fights.?br />
Wrong. The two battles that were fought between these great warriors resulted in one draw and one split decision win for Pacquiao. Pacquiao actually sent Marquez to the mats four times in two fights.

“Erik Morales was shop-worn and past his prime.?br />
Morales was 29 and 30 years old when he was respectively TKOd and KOd by Pacquiao.

Pacquiao is 31 with more fights under his belt than Morales, yet he is still considered to be in his prime.

“Oscar De La Hoya was old and weight-drained.?br />
De La Hoya was only one year older and 8 lbs lighter than when he fought Floyd Mayweather Jr. and gave him the toughest fight of his career. It was the only fight that Mayweather failed to win by KO, TKO, or unanimous decision.

“Ricky Hatton was overrated.?br />
Hatton had an outstanding record of 45 wins and one loss at the time he fought Pacquiao. He was undefeated as a light welterweight, and his only loss had been to Mayweather in a welter weight bout. It took Mayweather 10 rounds to finish him. Manny did it in two.

“Cotto was damaged goods.?br />
After the beating that Cotto suffered at the allegedly loaded hands of Antonio Margarito, Cotto went on to TKO Michael Jennings, who held a record of 34-1.

In his next bout he reigned victorious in a brutal war against Joshua Clottey (35-2) despite suffering a severe cut over his left eye due to an incidental headbutt in round three.

“Pacquiao is on steroids, or some other form of performance enhancing drugs, and that’s why he’s been able to gain so much lean weight while retaining his power.?br />
This accusation is totally baseless. There is no evidence that Pacquiao has ever used any form of illegal PEDs. In fact, his actual fighting weight has changed very little over the past three years.

11/18/2006
Pacquiao-Morales 3: Official weigh-in: 129- Fight night: 144

10/06/2007
Pacquiao-Barrera 2: Official weigh-in: 130- Fight night: 144

06/15/2008
Pacquiao-Marquez 2: Official weigh-in: 130- Fight night: 145

06/28/2008
Pacquiao-Diaz: Official weigh-in: 135- Fight night: 147

12/06/2008:
Pacquiao- De La Hoya: Official weigh-in: 142- Fight night: 148

05/02/2009:
Pacquiao-Hatton: Official weigh-in: 138- Fight night: 148

11/14/2009:
Pacquiao-Cotto: Official weigh-in: 144- Fight night: unknown

“Pacquiao is on A-side meth.?br />
I have no facts on this because I have no idea what A-side meth actually is—or if it even exists.



I was recently told by a particular critic that there are only a few sources that cover boxing with unbiased credibility. The rest are fan sites and blogs.

The intended point was that the sites who praise Pacquiao are not credible.

I found that interesting.

Upon doing a great deal of research I also found it interesting that all of the unbiased, credible boxing sources that were named by this critic have bestowed honors upon Manny Pacquiao, including:

2006, 2008 and 2009 The Ring ****zine Fighter of the Year

2006 and 2008 Boxing Writers Association of America Fighter of the Year

2006 and 2008 SecondsOut.com Fighter of the Year

2008 and 2009 The Ring ****zine No. 1 Pound For Pound (year-end)

Five-Time PSA Sportsman of the Year

2000-09 Philippine Sportswriters Association Athlete of the Decade

2008 University Athletic Association of the Philippines (UAAP) Honorary Award for Sports Excellence

2008 and 2009 krikya360.com Fighter of the Year

2008 Sports Illustrated Boxer of the Year

2008 and 2009 TheSweetScience.com Boxer of the Year

2008 WBC Boxer of the Year

2008 Yahoo Sports Fighter of the Year

2008 and 2009 ESPN Star's Champion of Champions

2009 ESPN Fighter of the Year

2009 ESPN Knockout of the Year

2009 ESPY Awards Best Fighter

2009 TIME 100 Most Influential People (Heroes & Icons Category)

2009 TIME ****zine cover for November issue

2009 Forbes ****zine Celebrity 100 (ranked 57th)

2009 HBO Fighter of the Decade

2009 The SweetScience.com Fighter of the Decade

2009 Sports Illustrated Fighter of the Year

2009 The Ring ****zine Knockout of the Year

2009 World's Greatest Ever Featherweight

2009 World's Greatest Ever (ranked second)

To the hysterical and very loud minority who think Pacquiao is an overrated cherry-picker: You have every right to your opinion, but facts are facts.

[mrgreenfingers]

No the 2 pounds made no difference to me either but if he had fought Cotto at 147 and not restrict cotto from weightin 147 then i would have rated the cotto fight over the Barrera win, But because the fight was restricted i cannot give it a full mark for it.

oh right, fair dues, well manny only has roach to blame for allowing that question mark to appear, for it seems not much gain.

[Fearless BONG]

No wonder that ODLH and PU$$Y Fraud Gayweather are the most protected and being manage well during the time they are under Arum's banner. hahahahahaha.....

very funny article...

[Allucard]

by Lord Hughey Windsor-Sanchez

All hail King Pacquiao, the most carefully managed, over hyped boxer in the history of the sport.

A careful process of Bob Arum match making him against the most beatable opponents possible, to try and convince fight fans that this isn't the same guy who lost 10 out of 12 rounds with Marquez, before running away, and ducking a third bout.

Let's go through the legends career, honestly, and based on fact.

His "dominance" at the small weights was little more than being destroyed by Medgoen Singsurat, before ducking his contracted re-match, and running away.

He then got the most corrupt "Arum" decision in boxing history, with a gift of a draw against Sanchez. A matter of months before Arum was investigated by the FBI for fixing fights.

Did he re-match his lucky decision. Like Mayweather and Castillo? No, the "warrior" ran away again!

He then made his name in against a shop worn Barrera, before he got another ridiculous "Arum" decision. Getting gifted a draw in a bout most people think he lost by about three rounds. Completely out boxed and outclassed.

He then got completely outclassed again by a shop worn Morales, who was only 70% of his peak skills. Being so hopelessly outclassed, that Morales started boxing southpaw for the last three rounds.

So, let's have a look—without dodgy "Arum" decisions, we'd be looking at five losses by now.

His entire career based on lucky decisions it seems.

What happens next can only be described as an Arum lesson in hype building. He'd been hopelessly outclassed in his last few fights, so Arum starts putting him in with shot names.

Morales had already been destroyed by a complete journeyman by the time of the rematch, and was not respected as a genuine elite fighter any more by then. Does Arum go after someone better?

No! He makes the fight anyway. To prove once and for all that Manny is as good a fighter as Zahir Reeham...

Are we thinking about facing young elite super feathers now?

No! Let's face the shot name again!

Right, are we ready to face a young elite super feather yet?

No! Let's get back in with another shot name in Barrera. A guy we beat easily years ago!

So Arum has done a nice job rebuilding an exposed fighter, by putting him in with a series of shot names, who were way past their best.

And then he finally goes in with another elite, peak pfp opponent, and he gets schooled again! Losing nearly every round. Surely, this has finally shown that he's not half the fighter Arum has tried to project, and Marquez will get his deserved UD.

No! Another "Arum" decisions saves him. Does the "warrior" rematch the close decision. No, he runs away again. Just like with all his losses, and close decisions.

So again, we are in a position where the world realises that Pacquiao as a fighter is maybe two-percent better than Juan Marquez.

So Arum builds the hype again, by hand picking a load of idiot-proof opponents, who won't expose any of Manny's many weaknesses.

David Diaz. Hands down the worst lightweight champion I have ever seen. Did Manny go for Casamayor, or Juan Diaz. No, he picks the chump. The easiest fight there. Anyone remember Mayweather picking the HARDEST lightweight fight available when he made the same move!? And then rematching him when he got a close decision.

Manny picking the easiest. And throughout his career continually running away from close fights.

What now? We can't accuse Mayweather of taking easy "name fights" when he became "the man", and face Oscar as well can we?

Hell yeah!

The guys shot, old, and nearly lost to Steve Forbes at 150 as the weight drop was too much. So you'd think Manny would grow a set and fight him at at least 150, to make a fight of it.

No, let's make a shot 36 year-old fighter, who can't even make 150, boil down to 147. And then make him agree to not come in over 147, so he isn't too heavy.

Oscar's usual in right weight at welter?65.

What "the warrior" asked him to come in at 147

So you've faced one bum, and one shot name. Surely an elite, peaked, tough guy now!

No, Ricky Hatton. The same "cherry picked" opponent that you accuse Mayweather of taking. Not only that, but he's completely shot by then! At least he was peak versus Mayweather.

Hatton here is shot, exposed, and most of the media wanted him to retire after nearly getting knocked out by journeyman Juan Lazcano.

That's a great opponent when your trying to rebuild an exposed fighters reputation!

Shane Mosely, the Divisional No. 1 calls you out, and says he will fight you at only 20% of the purse split. A record purse.

Roach doesn't want it though as he wants "guys who come to fight". Translated, a fighter who won't expose Pacquiao again likle Marquez. So takes an exposed Divisional No. 3 in Cotto, for half of the purse.

Turns down one of the only true superfights in boxing, for an exposed Cotto, who struggled to even beat bum of the week Clottey.

All because he wanted a guy to continue the hype. And further rebuild the exposed Pacquiaos image with yet another hand picked brawler.

Then he gets a shot to finally take on another elite, peak, slick fighter. And runs away from $40 million on the basis that he would do a test 24 days before, but not 14 days.

Runs away over 10 days! Top Rank spin it as " Filipino pride". I think Barry Bonds probably suffers from that as well...

Who's the opponent? Tim Bradley, the divisional No. 2 at the weight you are ring champion? Maybe wait for Mosely, or take on Paul Williams?

No. As they can all duck, and have the skills to do exactly the same as Marquez did. So lets hand pick another idiot-proof brawler to build some more hype.

Manny has only ever faced four peak, elite opponents in his entire career.

Barrer-One.

Moralez-One.

Marquez-One and Two.

Cotto.

He beat Barrera. Got schooled by Morales and Marquez. Struggled to a win over Cotto.

Let's be totally totally honest. Much of the "legend" is simply a PFP level fighter taking on either shot "names" or hand picked stooges, that offer none of the skills to trouble Pacquiao.

Anyone who can duck, slip, counter, move carefully sidestepped. Roach telling the world he "wants guys who come to fight".

Translated. I want a guy to just stand there, and let my guy swarm all around him for 12 rounds.

Popular fighters are hard to discuss. As 90% of the discussion is made by his fans. Kind of like trying to convince Backstreet Boys fans that Nick really isn't that musically talented.

But let's be honest. Manny's actual place in history (history will surely show this) is a plucky little fighter, who came up short against the real peak HOF fighters, and had a bit of joy against some shot names, and hand picked brawlers.

Don't expect him to ever go in with a skilled fighter again. Mosely, Marquez, Mayweather will all be side stepped. With Roach running his mouth, claiming they are all ducking him, no matter how much they run their mouth.

I'm sure he will have a case of the "I'm superstitious about needles/ring size/glove size" or anything they demand. Anything to be able to run away without being labelled a ducker.

PS. The girls in the back will be facing a slick, skilled fighter before Pacquiao does.

Thanks Guys

Much Love

Lord Huey III BA, BSCI and BAR

I didn't know some of that early Pacquiao ****... DAMN.... Another one...

[mrgreenfingers]

Lord Huey III BA, BSCI and BAR



Manny Pacquiao, an Overrated Cherry-Picker? Think Again...
Written on January 29, 2010
LAS VEGAS - NOVEMBER 13: Manny Pacquiao weighs in for his upcoming bout against WBO welterweight champion Miguel Cotto at the MGM Grand Garden Arena on November 13, 2009 in Las Vegas, Nevada. Pacquiao and Cotto will meet in a WBO welterweight title fight at the MGM Grand on November 14. Pacquiao weighed in at 144 pounds and Cotto weighed in at 145 pounds. (Photo by Al Bello/Getty Images) Al Bello/Getty Images
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It is impossible for a human being to be completely devoid of opinion.

Every person who knows anything about today’s boxing world has an opinion of Manny Pacquiao, and everyone seems to be eager to share it.

While the majority of fans agree that Pacquiao has earned his place as one of the greats in boxing history, a growing number of critics have a lot to say to the contrary.

Critics continue to throw jabs, hooks, and haymakers in their attempts to discredit Manny Pacquiao. Most punches are off target--catching nothing but air. Each jab can be countered with real fact.

Here are the most popular statements that have been circulated in attempts to nullify Pacquiao’s achievements:

“He can’t be one of the greatest. He’s been knocked out before.?br />
Even Joe Louis was KOd by Max Schmeling.

Joe Frazier was TKOd by Ali.

“Marco Antonio Barrera was past his prime.?br />
He was 29 when Manny TKOd him in their first meeting.

“Juan Manuel Marquez really beat Pacquiao in both fights.?br />
Wrong. The two battles that were fought between these great warriors resulted in one draw and one split decision win for Pacquiao. Pacquiao actually sent Marquez to the mats four times in two fights.

“Erik Morales was shop-worn and past his prime.?br />
Morales was 29 and 30 years old when he was respectively TKOd and KOd by Pacquiao.

Pacquiao is 31 with more fights under his belt than Morales, yet he is still considered to be in his prime.

“Oscar De La Hoya was old and weight-drained.?br />
De La Hoya was only one year older and 8 lbs lighter than when he fought Floyd Mayweather Jr. and gave him the toughest fight of his career. It was the only fight that Mayweather failed to win by KO, TKO, or unanimous decision.

“Ricky Hatton was overrated.?br />
Hatton had an outstanding record of 45 wins and one loss at the time he fought Pacquiao. He was undefeated as a light welterweight, and his only loss had been to Mayweather in a welter weight bout. It took Mayweather 10 rounds to finish him. Manny did it in two.

“Cotto was damaged goods.?br />
After the beating that Cotto suffered at the allegedly loaded hands of Antonio Margarito, Cotto went on to TKO Michael Jennings, who held a record of 34-1.

In his next bout he reigned victorious in a brutal war against Joshua Clottey (35-2) despite suffering a severe cut over his left eye due to an incidental headbutt in round three.

“Pacquiao is on steroids, or some other form of performance enhancing drugs, and that’s why he’s been able to gain so much lean weight while retaining his power.?br />
This accusation is totally baseless. There is no evidence that Pacquiao has ever used any form of illegal PEDs. In fact, his actual fighting weight has changed very little over the past three years.

11/18/2006
Pacquiao-Morales 3: Official weigh-in: 129- Fight night: 144

10/06/2007
Pacquiao-Barrera 2: Official weigh-in: 130- Fight night: 144

06/15/2008
Pacquiao-Marquez 2: Official weigh-in: 130- Fight night: 145

06/28/2008
Pacquiao-Diaz: Official weigh-in: 135- Fight night: 147

12/06/2008:
Pacquiao- De La Hoya: Official weigh-in: 142- Fight night: 148

05/02/2009:
Pacquiao-Hatton: Official weigh-in: 138- Fight night: 148

11/14/2009:
Pacquiao-Cotto: Official weigh-in: 144- Fight night: unknown

“Pacquiao is on A-side meth.?br />
I have no facts on this because I have no idea what A-side meth actually is—or if it even exists.



I was recently told by a particular critic that there are only a few sources that cover boxing with unbiased credibility. The rest are fan sites and blogs.

The intended point was that the sites who praise Pacquiao are not credible.

I found that interesting.

Upon doing a great deal of research I also found it interesting that all of the unbiased, credible boxing sources that were named by this critic have bestowed honors upon Manny Pacquiao, including:

2006, 2008 and 2009 The Ring ****zine Fighter of the Year

2006 and 2008 Boxing Writers Association of America Fighter of the Year

2006 and 2008 SecondsOut.com Fighter of the Year

2008 and 2009 The Ring ****zine No. 1 Pound For Pound (year-end)

Five-Time PSA Sportsman of the Year

2000-09 Philippine Sportswriters Association Athlete of the Decade

2008 University Athletic Association of the Philippines (UAAP) Honorary Award for Sports Excellence

2008 and 2009 krikya360.com Fighter of the Year

2008 Sports Illustrated Boxer of the Year

2008 and 2009 TheSweetScience.com Boxer of the Year

2008 WBC Boxer of the Year

2008 Yahoo Sports Fighter of the Year

2008 and 2009 ESPN Star's Champion of Champions

2009 ESPN Fighter of the Year

2009 ESPN Knockout of the Year

2009 ESPY Awards Best Fighter

2009 TIME 100 Most Influential People (Heroes & Icons Category)

2009 TIME ****zine cover for November issue

2009 Forbes ****zine Celebrity 100 (ranked 57th)

2009 HBO Fighter of the Decade

2009 The SweetScience.com Fighter of the Decade

2009 Sports Illustrated Fighter of the Year

2009 The Ring ****zine Knockout of the Year

2009 World's Greatest Ever Featherweight

2009 World's Greatest Ever (ranked second)

To the hysterical and very loud minority who think Pacquiao is an overrated cherry-picker: You have every right to your opinion, but facts are facts.

the fight night weights is another reason why hes slightly overrated, his move up the weights is not as sensational as it appears, its his abilty to boil down which was the amazing part, now carrying the power hes shown so far is sensational, but theres evidence to suggest this is his natural fighting weight.

[JulVal]

This article is ******ed and the author should be banned on writing about sports forever. What a ****ing joke. First off, Pacquiao was not given a gift decision vs Barrerra. It was a TKO.

Second, he wasn't with Arum on some of the bouts he stated

Third, the only controversial decisions were vs Marquez I and Marquez II which on Marquez I, a judge admitted that he scored the bout wrongly and Pacquiao should have won.

Marquez II was different though.

There are so many flaws in this article that it's hard and it's time consuming to post everything up. It's just so ******ed that *****s actually believed everything they read.

The only thing I learned from this is that *****s are certified idiots and only knows about Floyd's career no doubt.

[Horus]

by Lord Hughey Windsor-Sanchez

All hail King Pacquiao, the most carefully managed, over hyped boxer in the history of the sport.

A careful process of Bob Arum match making him against the most beatable opponents possible, to try and convince fight fans that this isn't the same guy who lost 10 out of 12 rounds with Marquez, before running away, and ducking a third bout.

Let's go through the legends career, honestly, and based on fact.

His "dominance" at the small weights was little more than being destroyed by Medgoen Singsurat, before ducking his contracted re-match, and running away.

He then got the most corrupt "Arum" decision in boxing history, with a gift of a draw against Sanchez. A matter of months before Arum was investigated by the FBI for fixing fights.

Did he re-match his lucky decision. Like Mayweather and Castillo? No, the "warrior" ran away again!

He then made his name in against a shop worn Barrera, before he got another ridiculous "Arum" decision. Getting gifted a draw in a bout most people think he lost by about three rounds. Completely out boxed and outclassed.

He then got completely outclassed again by a shop worn Morales, who was only 70% of his peak skills. Being so hopelessly outclassed, that Morales started boxing southpaw for the last three rounds.

So, let's have a look—without dodgy "Arum" decisions, we'd be looking at five losses by now.

His entire career based on lucky decisions it seems.

What happens next can only be described as an Arum lesson in hype building. He'd been hopelessly outclassed in his last few fights, so Arum starts putting him in with shot names.

Morales had already been destroyed by a complete journeyman by the time of the rematch, and was not respected as a genuine elite fighter any more by then. Does Arum go after someone better?

No! He makes the fight anyway. To prove once and for all that Manny is as good a fighter as Zahir Reeham...

Are we thinking about facing young elite super feathers now?

No! Let's face the shot name again!

Right, are we ready to face a young elite super feather yet?

No! Let's get back in with another shot name in Barrera. A guy we beat easily years ago!

So Arum has done a nice job rebuilding an exposed fighter, by putting him in with a series of shot names, who were way past their best.

And then he finally goes in with another elite, peak pfp opponent, and he gets schooled again! Losing nearly every round. Surely, this has finally shown that he's not half the fighter Arum has tried to project, and Marquez will get his deserved UD.

No! Another "Arum" decisions saves him. Does the "warrior" rematch the close decision. No, he runs away again. Just like with all his losses, and close decisions.

So again, we are in a position where the world realises that Pacquiao as a fighter is maybe two-percent better than Juan Marquez.

So Arum builds the hype again, by hand picking a load of idiot-proof opponents, who won't expose any of Manny's many weaknesses.

David Diaz. Hands down the worst lightweight champion I have ever seen. Did Manny go for Casamayor, or Juan Diaz. No, he picks the chump. The easiest fight there. Anyone remember Mayweather picking the HARDEST lightweight fight available when he made the same move!? And then rematching him when he got a close decision.

Manny picking the easiest. And throughout his career continually running away from close fights.

What now? We can't accuse Mayweather of taking easy "name fights" when he became "the man", and face Oscar as well can we?

Hell yeah!

The guys shot, old, and nearly lost to Steve Forbes at 150 as the weight drop was too much. So you'd think Manny would grow a set and fight him at at least 150, to make a fight of it.

No, let's make a shot 36 year-old fighter, who can't even make 150, boil down to 147. And then make him agree to not come in over 147, so he isn't too heavy.

Oscar's usual in right weight at welter?65.

What "the warrior" asked him to come in at 147

So you've faced one bum, and one shot name. Surely an elite, peaked, tough guy now!

No, Ricky Hatton. The same "cherry picked" opponent that you accuse Mayweather of taking. Not only that, but he's completely shot by then! At least he was peak versus Mayweather.

Hatton here is shot, exposed, and most of the media wanted him to retire after nearly getting knocked out by journeyman Juan Lazcano.

That's a great opponent when your trying to rebuild an exposed fighters reputation!

Shane Mosely, the Divisional No. 1 calls you out, and says he will fight you at only 20% of the purse split. A record purse.

Roach doesn't want it though as he wants "guys who come to fight". Translated, a fighter who won't expose Pacquiao again likle Marquez. So takes an exposed Divisional No. 3 in Cotto, for half of the purse.

Turns down one of the only true superfights in boxing, for an exposed Cotto, who struggled to even beat bum of the week Clottey.

All because he wanted a guy to continue the hype. And further rebuild the exposed Pacquiaos image with yet another hand picked brawler.

Then he gets a shot to finally take on another elite, peak, slick fighter. And runs away from $40 million on the basis that he would do a test 24 days before, but not 14 days.

Runs away over 10 days! Top Rank spin it as " Filipino pride". I think Barry Bonds probably suffers from that as well...

Who's the opponent? Tim Bradley, the divisional No. 2 at the weight you are ring champion? Maybe wait for Mosely, or take on Paul Williams?

No. As they can all duck, and have the skills to do exactly the same as Marquez did. So lets hand pick another idiot-proof brawler to build some more hype.

Manny has only ever faced four peak, elite opponents in his entire career.

Barrer-One.

Moralez-One.

Marquez-One and Two.

Cotto.

He beat Barrera. Got schooled by Morales and Marquez. Struggled to a win over Cotto.

Let's be totally totally honest. Much of the "legend" is simply a PFP level fighter taking on either shot "names" or hand picked stooges, that offer none of the skills to trouble Pacquiao.

Anyone who can duck, slip, counter, move carefully sidestepped. Roach telling the world he "wants guys who come to fight".

Translated. I want a guy to just stand there, and let my guy swarm all around him for 12 rounds.

Popular fighters are hard to discuss. As 90% of the discussion is made by his fans. Kind of like trying to convince Backstreet Boys fans that Nick really isn't that musically talented.

But let's be honest. Manny's actual place in history (history will surely show this) is a plucky little fighter, who came up short against the real peak HOF fighters, and had a bit of joy against some shot names, and hand picked brawlers.

Don't expect him to ever go in with a skilled fighter again. Mosely, Marquez, Mayweather will all be side stepped. With Roach running his mouth, claiming they are all ducking him, no matter how much they run their mouth.

I'm sure he will have a case of the "I'm superstitious about needles/ring size/glove size" or anything they demand. Anything to be able to run away without being labelled a ducker.

PS. The girls in the back will be facing a slick, skilled fighter before Pacquiao does.

Thanks Guys

Much Love

Lord Huey III BA, BSCI and BAR

Let's us know how you really feel?

[JulVal]

Let's us know how you really feel?

What can you say about this article Horus?

[Fearless BONG]

One thing is true, he has only fought fighters with the same basic style, anyone tricky they avoid.

That's why PU$$Y Fraud Gayweather did all the best to avoid Pacman.

[Joeyzagz]

2006, 2008 and 2009 The Ring ****zine Fighter of the Year

2006 and 2008 Boxing Writers Association of America Fighter of the Year

2006 and 2008 SecondsOut.com Fighter of the Year

2008 and 2009 The Ring ****zine No. 1 Pound For Pound (year-end)

Five-Time PSA Sportsman of the Year

2000-09 Philippine Sportswriters Association Athlete of the Decade

2008 University Athletic Association of the Philippines (UAAP) Honorary Award for Sports Excellence

2008 and 2009 krikya360.com Fighter of the Year

2008 Sports Illustrated Boxer of the Year

2008 and 2009 TheSweetScience.com Boxer of the Year

2008 WBC Boxer of the Year

2008 Yahoo Sports Fighter of the Year

2008 and 2009 ESPN Star's Champion of Champions

2009 ESPN Fighter of the Year

2009 ESPN Knockout of the Year

2009 ESPY Awards Best Fighter

2009 TIME 100 Most Influential People (Heroes & Icons Category)

2009 TIME ****zine cover for November issue

2009 Forbes ****zine Celebrity 100 (ranked 57th)

2009 HBO Fighter of the Decade

2009 The SweetScience.com Fighter of the Decade

2009 Sports Illustrated Fighter of the Year

2009 The Ring ****zine Knockout of the Year

2009 World's Greatest Ever Featherweight

2009 World's Greatest Ever (ranked second)

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