Standing 8-count in Chico-Castillo?

[czars_salad]

I'm just mad becuase i missed the fight

i think some guys here have uploaded the fight, try to look for one

[vB Martin]

Under the Unified Rules, used whenever there is a unification match, there is no standing 8 count, ever.

I still don't undertand all the people calling this a premature stoppage. Were I a betting man, I would have put money on Castillo by KO. I like Castillo. He's an exciting fighter to watch. Thank you, Tony Weeks, for stepping in so that I my get to see him fight again some day.

[PunchDrunk]

If Castillo was anywhere near conscious enough to know what was going on at the time of stoppage he should have taken a knee. It's okay for people here to not know the rules, but the fighter has to know what to do in any given situation. He clearly wasn't protecting himself anymore, so the stoppage was good.

[SnoopySmurf]

I gotta say, both these guys are still in a world of pain. I saw both fighters' ears were reddish and will probably be too painful to sleep on. Neither fighters will be able to eat solid foods as their jaws, teeth and gums are bruised, loose and tender respectively. Their faces and area under thier eyes...my oh my....they're gonna have an array of yellowish, blueish and black bruises. Their noses will be swollen by now.

But to them, it was worth all that for the glory. This will be retold for generations beyond our time.

[RockyMarciano]

were you guys watching the fight or just highlights? THERE WAS NO STANDING 8 COUNT RULE!!!!.....NO 3 KNOCKDOWN....and anyways...if there would have been...chico would have got up at 7 instead of nine....he knew what he was doing...he wasnt knocked silly..

[TRUEVisionDC]

Even if there was a standing 8 count rule in effect, how do you initiate it with Castillo STILL STANDING against the ropes...The ref would have to come in and "stop" the fight????

[Stickman]

The standing 8 allows for a seriously stunned fighter to be given an 8 count to recover and (hopefully) regain the ability to be competetive in the fight. Non-existant in the unified rules, though, which is why Castillo didn't get one. The unified rules are geared somewhat more toward allowing a fighter to finish his opponent when he gets him in trouble. No standing 8, no 3 KD rule, bell doesn't stop the count on a downed fighter, etc.

Also, when a fighter is being held up by the ropes, or trapped on 'em, and starts catching big shots and goes out on his feet (hands down, eyes rolled back, catching flush, neck-snapping powershots with no attempt to slip or return fire) the ref has no choice but to stop the fight, to protect the health and life of the boxer in trouble. I haven't seen this fight past the 6th yet, but when I do finally get to watch it, I doubt I'll have any issues with the stoppage myself from what I've read here. Anyone who wants a fight to continue under those circumstances is no fan of the sport of boxing, they just like to see people get beat up, and Boxing can do without that type of "fan".

[TRUEVisionDC]

The standing 8 allows for a seriously stunned fighter to be given an 8 count to recover and (hopefully) regain the ability to be competetive in the fight. Non-existant in the unified rules, though, which is why Castillo didn't get one. The unified rules are geared somewhat more toward allowing a fighter to finish his opponent when he gets him in trouble. No standing 8, no 3 KD rule, bell doesn't stop the count on a downed fighter, etc.

Also, when a fighter is being held up by the ropes, or trapped on 'em, and starts catching big shots and goes out on his feet (hands down, eyes rolled back, catching flush, neck-snapping powershots with no attempt to slip or return fire) the ref has no choice but to stop the fight, to protect the health and life of the boxer in trouble. I haven't seen this fight past the 6th yet, but when I do finally get to watch it, I doubt I'll have any issues with the stoppage myself from what I've read here. Anyone who wants a fight to continue under those circumstances is no fan of the sport of boxing, they just like to see people get beat up, and Boxing can do without that type of "fan".

But, lets say this wasnt a unification bout. WOULD there be a standing 8 count if Castillo is against the ropes like that and how is that administered?? Im assuming their would just be a stoppage...

[Stickman]

But, lets say this wasnt a unification bout. WOULD there be a standing 8 count if Castillo is against the ropes like that and how is that administered?? Im assuming their would just be a stoppage...

Unlikely, but it's possible. I've seen refs give standing-8s, even when they unified rules are in effect....I think they just forget sometimes. Everybody's human.

Mostly, when a fighter is on the ropes like that, and taking a terrible "whupping", the ref just stops it, regardless whether it's a title bout, unification bout, whatever. I doubt that the type of match even crosses the ref's mind when a fighter is being beaten up that badly and is completely out on his feet. If he were just trapped on the ropes and taking some big shots, the ref might consider that it's a title unification bout, but not after he's basically just out and being held up by the ropes, and his own toughness....a fighter isn't going to recover from something like that, even if he's given 8.

[AintGottaClue]

the ref couldnt give a 8 count even if he wanted to it wasnt aloud/effect in that fight, WBC rules i think and unification stuff