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Originally posted by Gurkha View Posti heard arum had to give oscar like $2 million for pac-cotto.
gbp wasn't even involved at all.
you know that riles the old *** up.
hell yea it like Oscar was in the front row goin or better yet sent him a txt sayin hey Bob u think I can get that deposit first thing in the mornin lol
All jk aside seems like the better business man is Oscar bob has the better fighters in his camp but for how long...Cotto was close to going to GBP so was Pac.
As long as the dislike from Bob is that strong the fight wont happen unless Pac starts to do wat Oscar and Floyd did too bob and say **** em...
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Originally posted by Duckweather View Postnothing like the the % Golden boy and Arum are taking from pac.
it depends on the situation. depends what you prefer and the rewards could go either way.
btw how do you know what percentage pac gives up? never seen any reliable figures. everyone talks about 27% but that came from floyd's mouth. 27% was what he use to give up to arum. doesn't necessarily mean that's what pac gives arum.
and like i said before gbp's cut come's from top rank's cut. it doesn't effect pacquiao either way. that deal was between gbp and top rank.
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Originally posted by odogg8121 View Posthell yea it like Oscar was in the front row goin or better yet sent him a txt sayin hey Bob u think I can get that deposit first thing in the mornin lol
All jk aside seems like the better business man is Oscar bob has the better fighters in his camp but for how long...Cotto was close to going to GBP so was Pac.
As long as the dislike from Bob is that strong the fight wont happen unless Pac starts to do wat Oscar and Floyd did too bob and say **** em...
top rank is a well oiled machine and to me is the best run promotional company. top rank is what made oscar and floyd what they are.
gbp only had inside track with hbo because of delahoya. delahoya was able to use his name to get juicy deals for gbp.
hbo and mgm grand had to cut gbp good deals to get oscar's business.
with oscar retired and no longer the cash cow of boxing.......things will change.
gbp does not have a great stable of young fighters. all their young fighters have had bad breaks recently.
top rank has some good young fighters in their stable.
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Originally posted by Gurkha View Postprobably but like i said it's comparable to either working for a big company or running your own business.
it depends on the situation. depends what you prefer and the rewards could go either way.
btw how do you know what percentage pac gives up? never seen any reliable figures. everyone talks about 27% but that came from floyd's mouth. 27% was what he use to give up to arum. doesn't necessarily mean that's what pac gives arum.
and like i said before gbp's cut come's from top rank's cut. it doesn't effect pacquiao either way. that deal was between gbp and top rank.
wouldn't surprise me if the % was higher..I don't think Pac cares...he just needs enough money to live comfortably
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Originally posted by Gurkha View Postyeah because ellerbe/haymon/schaeffer all work for floyd for free.
Originally posted by Gurkha View Post
you guys really have no concept of simple business.
It makes no sense for someone like Manny Pacquiao to be pimped by everyone who is around him. Arum, Top Rank, GBP, Roach, lawyers, etc.
Please don't compare Manny Pacquiao to RJJ. Manny Pacquiao is more popular than RJJ was in his prime. Manny Pacquiao is one of the biggest superstars in any sport right now.
A fighter who has a histroy for selling millions of PPVs, has millions of fans, and is one of the most popular boxers right now should be making a lot more than he's making right now.
You guys make fun of the Mayweathers not finishing high school, but at least they know how to handle their business. Who is pimping Mayweather right now? Arum is Manny's pimp. Manny does whatever Arum tells him to do because Arum only cares about his money. You don't see any promoter telling Mayweather who to fight and when he's going to fight.
Mayweather only has to pay his employees who work for him and a small fee to GBP to use their license. Manny is getting pimped by everyone around him and he's even getting pimped by people who have nothing to do with his fights. Manny has to pay Arum, Top Rank, GBP, Roach, his management, lawyers, etc. Arum and Pac's management also get a cut from the deals Manny makes outside of boxing.
Mayweather made over $45 million in his two fights after he paid Arum 100K to get out of his contract. Manny has been getting pimped by everyone his whole career.
Manny is the best boxer right now and he's not even his own boss. He has to do whatever Arum tells him to do, lmao.
If Manny was smart like Mayweather... he would've started his own company when he became a household name.
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Originally posted by Duckweather View Postwouldn't surprise me if the % was higher..I don't think Pac cares...he just needs enough money to live comfortably
remember golden boy gave pac a juicy offer which he turned down in favor of top rank.
if pac is returning that kind of money , you'd gotta think top rank offered a sweeter deal.
no matter.
they're both making tons of money.
what's the difference of making $10 million instead of $12.
not much. doesn't matter to me.
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Originally posted by Viva_La_Raza View PostPaying your employees a small salary and paying GBP a small fee to use them as a promotion company is a lot different than giving someone at least 25% of your money.
You think you know more about business than me?
It makes no sense for someone like Manny Pacquiao to be pimped by everyone who is around him. Arum, Top Rank, GBP, Roach, lawyers, etc.
Please don't compare Manny Pacquiao to RJJ. Manny Pacquiao is more popular than RJJ was in his prime. Manny Pacquiao is one of the biggest superstars in any sport right now.
A fighter who has a histroy for selling millions of PPVs, has millions of fans, and is one of the most popular boxers right now should be making a lot more than he's making right now.
You guys make fun of the Mayweathers not finishing high school, but at least they know how to handle their business. Who is pimping Mayweather right now? Arum is Manny's pimp. Manny does whatever Arum tells him to do because Arum only cares about his money. You don't see any promoter telling Mayweather who to fight and when he's going to fight.
Mayweather only has to pay his employees who work for him and a small fee to GBP to use their license. Manny is getting pimped by everyone around him and he's even getting pimped by people who have nothing to do with his fights. Manny has to pay Arum, Top Rank, GBP, Roach, his management, lawyers, etc. Arum and Pac's management also get a cut from the deals Manny makes outside of boxing.
Mayweather made over $45 million in his two fights after he paid Arum 100K to get out of his contract. Manny has been getting pimped by everyone his whole career.
Manny is the best boxer right now and he's not even his own boss. He has to do whatever Arum tells him to do, lmao.
If Manny was smart like Mayweather... he would've started his own company when he became a household name.
i don't give a **** if you run a fortune 500 business.
you're talking out of your ass.
i don't know much about the boxing business nor do i know the details of how mayweather nor pacquiao's contracts are and neither do YOU.
all i know is you're ****** to be talking about people who make millions of dollars getting pimped.
everyone is making money. everyone is getting rich.
no one is getting pimped.
can't stand all you dumb *****s that listen to floyd's bull**** and think you guys no what's going on.
pacquiao is making good money. good for him.
i don't need to hear any of this bull**** about arum pimping him or whatever. arum is doing his job. pacquiao is getting paid.
at least pacquiao doesn't have to borrow money from golden boy promotions.
your boy almost trucked it and signed with don king. he's lucky ellerbe saved his ass from that. now then he would have gotten pimped.
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Originally posted by Gurkha View Posthow you figured it's higher?
remember golden boy gave pac a juicy offer which he turned down in favor of top rank.
if pac is returning that kind of money , you'd gotta think top rank offered a sweeter deal.
no matter.
they're both making tons of money.
what's the difference of making $10 million instead of $12.
not much. doesn't matter to me.
Mayweather can fight a scrub and make over $20 million per fight while Manny is killing himself in the ring making $30 million and getting pimped by Arum. Arum has always been pimping his boxers. He even pimped Mayweather before he left. Oscar and Mayweather were smart to notice what Arum was doing.
Mayweather fought Hatton and Oscar: Made over $45 million in two fights.
Mayweather got paid $20 million to wrestle the big show in Wrestlemania.
Mayweather made over $20 million fighting Packy's kryptonite.
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Originally posted by big_james10You made some good points. However, don't think Arum is going to lose anything on that fight. He got at least a $10 to $15 million site fee from Jerry Jones. That, plus the amount HBO is throwing in, plus whatever he gets in sponsorship fees will be more than enough to cover all the costs. His 27 percent of Pac's purse, plus the PPV revenue and the gate is all profit for Arum.
just giving a worse case scenario.
arum is good at what he does. there's a reason fighters pay him what they do.
where would oscar be without arum? manny? even floyd?
people think it's all about promote yourself , keep all the money. it's not that simple. if it was so easy everyone would be doing it. promoters have their jobs and their place.
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