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Originally posted by BABYBOXER View PostJMM was obviously robbed on that fight against CJ.
I believe marquez won the fight. If you consider the fact that Marquez was the champ going into the fight, it was a draw at best if you bend over backwards and score the fight favorably for John. What really stands out was the fact that the Ring was a joke. It was a huge ring allowing John the opportunity to avoid Marquez as much as possible throughout the fight.
I do give Pac props for fighting toe to toe with Marquez. Guys like Gainer, Norwood & John did not want to exchange with JMM. They either tried to hold JMM (Norwood) or continuely move away (Gainer & John) & refused to engage with JMM.
The only guy that has really beaten JMM on my scorecard was Mayweather.Last edited by Mr Reality; 01-14-2010, 10:22 PM.
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Bitterness to the grave.
If only JMM would stop baiting Pacquiao with that afraid of me BS. He probably would already landed a trilogy with him. But nooooooo.....he just couldn't keep his trap shut. That's why he will never have a chance to redeem himself against Pacquiao. He's going to take his bitterness with hin until the day he dies. Pacquiao will just keep ignoring him until he STFU because Pacman is in a position to piss him off forever and ever and ever.
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Originally posted by etondl View PostIf only JMM would stop baiting Pacquiao with that afraid of me BS. He probably would already landed a trilogy with him. But nooooooo.....he just couldn't keep his trap shut. That's why he will never have a chance to redeem himself against Pacquiao. He's going to take his bitterness with hin until the day he dies. Pacquiao will just keep ignoring him until he STFU because Pacman is in a position to piss him off forever and ever and ever.
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Originally posted by Mr Reality View PostAll the crap you spew can't change the reality of Pac knowing he got beat and was given a gift with respect to II. Pacquiao can't ignore that image in the mirror after that fight. Pacquiao can't ignore the tapes of him attending post fight conference in shades. Pacquiao can't ignore the fact that he ducked JMM to fight David Diaz. Stuff like that justs eat you up inside, why do you think Team Pacquiao & Manny still entertain the idea of fighting Marquez one more time?
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Originally posted by BABYBOXER View Posti think JMM should drop the idea of fighting manny, it may just ruin his legacy because manny will kill him. they are not on the same level now, better let the doubt from the boxing fans that once upon a time, he defeated manny (unofficially).
If Pacquiao would have fought JMM at lightweight instead of David Diaz, he would have had his hands full once agian. He clearly ducked JMM to fight the lesser fighter in order fluff up his titles.
At WW Pacquiao logically should overwhelm him as he is younger thus better suited for moving up in weight while retaining speed/quickness. At any weight lower than WW I still have my doubts taht Pacquiao would Kill JMM (as you stated). JMM usually comes in around 130 -138 range for fights(save the WW fight with Mayweather) making him a possible threat at JR WW/Superlighweight. Of course, as JMM gets older Pacquiao will have the advantage in any weight. Letting JMM get older has always been the stratergy by Team Pacquiao for a possible JMM vs Pacquiao III if you ask me.Last edited by Mr Reality; 01-15-2010, 01:15 AM.
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Originally posted by Mr Reality View PostPacquiao likes to pick his fights ala Mayweather. He also likes to pick the weight he would like to fight a fighter as evidenced by his latest fights. It looks like WW is the weight class where Team Pacquiao & Arum wanted this fight to take place. Furthermore, Roach had been quoted as saying that is where they would fight Marquez if they would ever fight him again. After seeing Marquez vs Mayweather at WW they know that JMM is too old to take on that much weight and remain quick enough to effectively counter.
If Pacquiao would have fought JMM at lightweight instead of David Diaz, he would have had his hands full once agian. He clearly ducked JMM to fight the lesser fighter in order fluff up his titles.
At WW Pacquiao logically should overwhelm him as he is younger thus better suited for moving up in weight while retaining speed/quickness. tAny weight lower than that I still have my doubts. JMM usually comes in around 130 -138 range for fights(save WW fight with Mayweather) making him a possible threat at JR WW/Superlighweight. Of course, as JMM gets older Pacquiao will have the advantage in any weight. Letting JMM get older has always been the stratergy by Team Pacquiao for JMM vs Pacquiao III if you ask me.
i wanna see pac-jmm 3 just like you do, to clear the doubt who the better fighter is. but it seems it will never happen. pac may be thinking that his critics would just say that JMM is old and washed up. no credit at all if he wins. JMM is one of my favorite but he's no longer on his prime.
'am sure you know how professional boxing business goes esp if it concerns elite boxers.. it is a different story for new comers and fading boxers..
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JMM fought the top fighters at LIGHTWEIGHT
Pac fought the LINEAL champ at JR WW and a top 3 WW....
what the F*** is wrong with your brain.....
Lightweights are a LOT SMALLER than JR. WW and WW
Originally posted by Mr Reality View PostUnlike Quakuiao JMM fought the top fighters at Lightweight. He KO'd the top rated lightweights when he moved up brother. I have a hard time remembering who Quakuiao fought at lightweight. Was the guy even a top three rated lightweight?
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Originally posted by boxingfan76 View Postyou dont fight twice if u won the first. u dont fight 3 times if u won the second fight simple as that.
so you don't believe in rematches? that morales shouldn't have given pac the 1st rematch because he clearly won their 1st fight? and which of the two is dying for Pac-JMM 3? obviously its JMM, hence the whining. ur logic a bit off, probably on the account of too much hatred against a certain fighter.
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Originally posted by BABYBOXER View Posti think JMM should drop the idea of fighting manny, it may just ruin his legacy because manny will kill him. they are not on the same level now, better let the doubt from the boxing fans that once upon a time, he defeated manny (unofficially).
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