Pacquiao-Mayweather debacle: Montoya's take

[BlackHat]

Good read. props to you fightfreak, threads like this should be sticked.

[Mike Hawk]

good read. that is the jist of i felt about the situation. but i suck at conveying meaningful messages. lol.

cliffnotes:

regardless of guiltiness or innocence, it was a low-blow from the mayweathers.

[thatnickuh]

Another anti-Mayweather person who cares more about Pacquiao's feelings and Mayweather's motives, than he does about seeing the two get in the ring for a fair clean fight. Mayweather's motives for wanting stricter testing doesn't matter, the only people who care about his motives are Pacquiao sympathizers who don't seem to care if Pacquiao is cheating or not. Mayweather may have received some inside info from someone that he trusts about Pacquiao, or he could just be shook up from seeing Pacquiao's last two performances. Either way, it's irrelevant because he has the right to request this testing. Anybody that tries to discredit his request because they question his motives is biased. The only thing that boxing fans should be concerned about is seeing a fair fight. From a fan's perspective, having both fighters subject themselves to more stringent testing does nothing but enhance the experience of seeing the two go up against each other in the ring.

I just don't get you people who have a problem with Mayweather's request. Whoever wrote this even admits that there is a possibility that Pacquiao may be beating the system, and that the current system needs to be updated. Yet, he still finds a way to sympathize with Pacquiao walking away from the biggest fight that he could possibly make over drug testing. That's amazingly telling to me. That tells me that people like him don't really care if Pacquiao is dirty or not. If you understand that there's a slight possibility that he's beating the system then you should be all for the stricter testing that both fighters will be subjected to. All professional athletes are under su****ion of using PEDs, that's why they're drug tested in the first place. The idea that Pacquiao or any other pro athlete is above su****ion is ludicrous.

We all know what the current drug testing policy in boxing is, and we all know that it's possible for fighters to beat the current system. Therefore, it's perfectly logical and reasonable for Mayweather or any other fighter to request more stringent testing if they believe that their opponent is beating the current system. It's that simple. How people fault Mayweather for wanting to take precautions to try and make sure that he gets a fair fight is mind boggling.

[thatnickuh]

good read. that is the jist of i felt about the situation. but i suck at conveying meaningful messages. lol.

cliffnotes:

regardless of guiltiness or innocence, it was a low-blow from the mayweathers.

This makes absolutely no sense. If you truly feel that it's a low blow to suspect that a pro athlete is taking PEDs, then you should feel like it's a low blow to have these athletes subject to drug testing period. If you think that one has to have proof that an athlete is using before you can suspect them of something, then why are you for drug testing in pro sports at all? Why are you ok with simple urine testing? Because it's easy to beat? Because it doesn't inconvenience the athletes as much? "Having the athletes subject themselves to lax drug testing that they can easily beat is ok, but asking them to submit to more stringent testing that minimizes any chance they may have of beating it is a low blow." What kind of idiotic logic is that?

[norrin]

1. You don't have to be a genius, you just need to understand human nature. Let's say we're both up for a promotion, and I pretend to lose some **** like my mobile phone and then accuse you in front of the boss of stealing it, I more or less would calculate how you would react.

2. You've got it

So if u accused me in front of the boss. I would simply laugh in your face and if you wanted to search my person, car, or house I would let you do it but if I came up w/ excuses of why you couldn't search my pockets or my personal items then the boss will look at me like I did it.

I get dizzy when someone goes through my personal items or You can search my stuff but tell me when you are going to search so I will know ahead of time.

[htown00]

just one more Pac love/Mayweather hate article full of fallacies. All the far out reaching comparisons people make don't hold any kind of water...take Mayweather and Pac's name off of it and I bet people that are defending Pacquiao would be speaking differently.

[FightFreak]

[QUOTE=thatnickuh;7229680]Another anti-Mayweather person who cares more about Pacquiao's feelings and Mayweather's motives, than he does about seeing the two get in the ring for a fair clean fight.

And you're just another Pac-hater, how's that for starters.

The only thing that boxing fans should be concerned about is seeing a fair fight.


1) The thing about you *****s is, you always start off pretending to be neutral, when you are clearly not. Come out of the closet. You'll feel better.

2) Mayweather's request is not a request, it is an ultimatum. Fight gets called off unless it is in place.

3) All professional athletes SHOULD be tested for PEDs, YES, BUT the fact is, THEY ARE NOT. You single out a particular professional and accuse him of cheating, demand that he undergo testing, and react surprised when he reacts like you are attacking his person? What are you, ******, or just playing one, because it is not your boy's name that is not being dragged through the mud?

4) If you want to clean the sport, demand that ALL professional boxers be subject to random blood and urine testing all year round. And address your concerns to the proper forum, and to the proper authority. You don't destroy a person's career WITHOUT BASIS AND JUSTIFY IT BY SAYING IT IS FOR THE GOOD OF THE SPORT. What is unfair to particular boxers is unfair to all boxers.

[LoveIsHere]

floyd is afraid

[FightFreak]

Bottomline questions

1) Is the accusation purely speculative (as opposed to having any factual evidence)? Yes
2) Does Pac have a basis for reacting negatively to the point of suing the May camp? Yes
3) Has the Pac camp agreed to random blood testing? Yes

[The Noose]

Very good.

Thats what i thought.....that Pac wouldnt be dictated to. And shouldnt be.

He was insulted by Floyd and basically told Floyd to **** off.