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    #61
    Originally posted by Silky-Flow View Post
    Hahahaha "master Roach" has just exposed his own man!! , first i posted the article about the "3 to 4 days to recover" comment and now this!!!. man Roiduiao is looking like a damn coward right now, any Floyd fans on twitter? if so send this **** to Floyd man!!.. the Mayweather camp needs this info ASAP, then maybe old ass Arum will get his own house in order.


    i sent it to floyd on twitter

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      #62
      Originally posted by sandyvahra View Post
      Funny how you guys blast Arum for his credibility. Now suddenly team mayweather is the most credible? 1st of all Roach isn't the promoter, understand that. When this 4-5 day cutoff was said, what was the only thing you heard from Ellerbe & Shaeffer? "random is random" "why is he scared of the test", etc etc. Why not jump on the 4-5 days then? Bottom line theres snakes on both sides, proven hypocrites.

      Better yet, why not make the 14 day offer publicly before mediation? Why was is it not disclosed yet every other aspect of the negotiation was disclosed pre-mediation from venue, to weight, gloves etc??

      This one detail was left out pre-mediation and away from the public? You guys are pretty bright if you believe that. Even more convenient that it comes out AFTER floyd is getting blitzed by the American Press on the issue. Hmmmm.

      Basically, both camps are playing the psychological warfare with one another, looking for the upper hand. Mayweather's use to winning these games but Team Pac really put them in check with their hard stance. Team Mayweather now knows they have to come off their position which is why they threw out the 14 days.

      You guys keep saying 14 days is fair, and I agree...but imho 14 to 24 isn't much of a difference, and looking at the bigger picture Pac has already made a concession to blood testing which he was not obligated to. It's just as easy to say Team Mayweather should shutup and take the 24 as it is for you to say Team Pac should shut up and take the 14. I'm a pac fan, I never agreed that Mayweather should make up the rules, or push pac around, or that pac should concede, or that this testing should even be needed etc. That being said with the 14 day offer now out there, I'd be disappointed if Pac didnt just take it since he's always about the fans.

      With all that being said, I truly believe we have a fight announced within the next couple of days.

      Nice backpedal. Your logic as to why 14 is rejected (it's not that different from 24) is ******ed.

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        #63
        Originally posted by Lead Cenobite View Post
        Nice backpedal. Your logic as to why 14 is rejected (it's not that different from 24) is ******ed.
        According to everyone's logic on here on previous threads about conte and balco was that we need random because some clean/clear can be flushed out in 24-48 hours. If thats the case what does 14 to 24 matter?

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          #64
          Originally posted by sandyvahra View Post
          According to everyone's logic on here on previous threads about conte and balco was that we need random because some clean/clear can be flushed out in 24-48 hours. If thats the case what does 14 to 24 matter?
          Because it's random. Again Floyd made CONCESSION. And Pac's camp still backed out.

          But you still wont' give him credit for the concession.

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            #65
            Originally posted by AIR_KENG View Post
            Guys, you really are part of Team Mayweather. And it is quite funny.

            Manny issued a verbal proposal that he was willing to be tested just not on the day of the fight. Team May had no response.

            Now that Mayweather says something after the mediation talks you expect Team Pac to jump all over him? Mayweather ignored what Roach/Pac said before. It is Mayweather's time to be ignored. Reap what you sow.


            once again *******s talking hours when mannys talking months..lolol

            sorry but u have no proof of not the day of the fight what u do have proof of is what pac said and thats 24 days sorry u lose

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              #66
              Originally posted by sandyvahra View Post
              Funny how you guys blast Arum for his credibility. Now suddenly team mayweather is the most credible? 1st of all Roach isn't the promoter, understand that.
              No, but he is the trainer.. and he knows Pacquiao better then anyone else. He knows Pac physically and mentally.. and his 5 day comment holds more water than the promoter as to what is realisitc.

              Nobody needs 30 days to recover from a blood test.

              When this 4-5 day cutoff was said, what was the only thing you heard from Ellerbe & Shaeffer? "random is random" "why is he scared of the test", etc etc. Why not jump on the 4-5 days then?
              I am sure they don't have every single interview being done by everyone in front of them. Also, at that point they were still in negotiations.. waiting to see what the next party would do. You don't come out with your full hand in the beginning, you wait to see that you can get the best deal you can. Now that we are at the very end... they have shown their full hand, and what they are willing to do to make the fight happen.

              Better yet, why not make the 14 day offer publicly before mediation? Why was is it not disclosed yet every other aspect of the negotiation was disclosed pre-mediation from venue, to weight, gloves etc??
              As I said before... does a car dealer come out and just give you the lowest price on the car right away? No, of course not... it's negotiations. He wants to get the most out of you, and has a rock bottom price in his head that he knows he can go to to get the car sold.

              Floyd has now given Pac that rock bottom price... the deal you can't walk away from... a more than reasonable compromise.

              And as I have also said... the press conferences were slated for next week. The only person saying it's too late is Bob Arum, and for no reason.

              This one detail was left out pre-mediation and away from the public? You guys are pretty bright if you believe that. Even more convenient that it comes out AFTER floyd is getting blitzed by the American Press on the issue. Hmmmm.
              Who cares... was the offer MADE? OR NOT?

              It was made... it's now on the table in the final days.

              This is the biggest grossing fight in the history of the sport and you now have a deal on the table is doable.

              Who cares when it was left out or why.

              It's here NOW.

              Basically, both camps are playing the psychological warfare with one another, looking for the upper hand. Mayweather's use to winning these games but Team Pac really put them in check with their hard stance. Team Mayweather now knows they have to come off their position which is why they threw out the 14 days.
              Ok... so they threw out the 14 days...

              It's here now... they have it.

              Whats the problem?

              You guys keep saying 14 days is fair, and I agree...but imho 14 to 24 isn't much of a difference, and looking at the bigger picture Pac has already made a concession to blood testing which he was not obligated to.
              Floyd has made a concession to accept a 10 Million dollar penalty should he go over the weight limit.

              Which he was not obligated to do.

              It's just as easy to say Team Mayweather should shutup and take the 24 as it is for you to say Team Pac should shut up and take the 14. I'm a pac fan, I never agreed that Mayweather should make up the rules, or push pac around, or that pac should concede, or that this testing should even be needed etc.That being said with the 14 day offer now out there, I'd be disappointed if Pac didnt just take it since he's always about the fans. With all that being said, I truly believe we have a fight announced within the next couple of days.
              I hope so.
              Last edited by THE REED; 01-08-2010, 10:03 AM.

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                #67
                Originally posted by reedickyaluss View Post
                There is still time to get the fight done. You don't throw away the biggest grossing fight in the history of the sport because "uhhh bidding is done".

                No, Bull****.

                The press conferences were originally slated to be scheduled for next week, and as Dan Rafael has backed up, they still have today and tomorrow to finalize things.

                "Time isn't up".

                A more than reasonable compromise has been made by the Floyd side, and there is still plenty of time to oblige.

                This isn't an "auction".
                Then don't use business and negotiation as arguments if you are going to deviate from the concept.

                Team Pac has been blurting out one compromise after another only to be turned down by Team May over and over again. Don't get me wrong, I want this fight to happen as much as you guys do but Team May has been the stubborn side in terms of compromise.

                Lastly, operative word on the auction statement was "like". Which does not mean "exactly the same."

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                  #68
                  Originally posted by Lead Cenobite View Post
                  Because it's random. Again Floyd made CONCESSION. And Pac's camp still backed out.

                  But you still wont' give him credit for the concession.
                  Random with a 14 day cutoff. Random with a 24 day cutoff. If you actually CAN cycle 24-48 hours with no detection then basically after 14 or 24 day cutoff is up you can juice. So really what's the big deal?

                  On the bold, nice logic. So Pacman agrees to additional testing that has never been done in the history of pro boxing, 40 years in nevada, with some of the greatest fighters ever but that's not a concession? That's the biggest concession there was in this entire fiasco bright lights. Jesus.

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                    #69
                    stop running pac, how can the pac fans spin THIS now????? if floyd puts this put in the media Arum is finished

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                      #70
                      Originally posted by sandyvahra View Post
                      Random with a 14 day cutoff. Random with a 24 day cutoff. If you actually CAN cycle 24-48 hours with no detection then basically after 14 or 24 day cutoff is up you can juice. So really what's the big deal?

                      On the bold, nice logic. So Pacman agrees to additional testing that has never been done in the history of pro boxing, 40 years in nevada, with some of the greatest fighters ever but that's not a concession? That's the biggest concession there was in this entire fiasco bright lights. Jesus.
                      Wow you'll do anything to defend Pac. Why?

                      What's he afraid of? Blood drainage? Which one of the Pac stories do you believe as to why he won't take the tests?

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