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    #21
    Think Martinez should hav got a b+ on his defence rather then a b. He washe was moving his head alot during the fight making Paul miss. Fight of the year IMO. All other fights were one sided. The paq fights the mayweather fight the mosley fight the klitihko fight. Not competeative. 2nd and third should be jmm and Juan Diaz, 3rd Andre dirrel vs carl froach. IMO

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      #22
      NO. Martinez showed that he was criminally underrated & PW showed that he was overhyped beyond belief.

      If it weren't for 3 American judges and Goosen stuffing money in the pockets of judges ensuring 119-110 scorecards Martinez would have recieved a fair shake.

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        #23
        I think Williams is still a good fighter, but unfortunately I don't know if he is going to get any better. He has untouched foundations that an elite trainer could refine. George Petersen probably isn't a bad trainer and he is someone who is close to Paul. But I just don't think he cuts it at the elite level like say ****m Richardson or even Ronnie Shields. But Paul will probably stick with him just because he's a father figure to him. In a lot of ways Williams is unrefined in certain departments of boxing like Cotto was. But the difference is, he has more will and stamina than Cotto and his physical attributes help him as well.

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          #24
          Originally posted by lopez36 View Post
          a rock thrower?..loll..you say it as if it were bad...yeah martinez gave him a good fight,but so did paul,that style you say is very dificult,imagine someone just coming at you all 12 rounds,non stop punching,it wears you out...i like that in a fighter,is a big asset,plus his conditioning has to be great to fight like that..that style tires the opponent,doesn't let you think much in the ring because you are constantly going back,don't plant yourself well to throw your punches,,,that is a good style to me
          I didn't mean rock thrower as an insult, I was explaining how Paul was or looked like he was out boxed. His style is successfull and I'm not arguing with success. I'm kind of agreeing with you, it takes a lot of energy to fight like that

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            #25
            wow, that fight should have definitely been a draw and a rematch is a must. I want to see Martinez on HBO more. I wonder how Martinez and Wright would look; anyone else?

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              #26
              Originally posted by ufirst View Post
              wow, that fight should have definitely been a draw and a rematch is a must. I want to see Martinez on HBO more. I wonder how Martinez and Wright would look; anyone else?
              Wright is shot

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                #27
                My memory of the fight is williams head being rocked again and again. But he is a tough guy and so is martinez. Its hard to see martinez not winning at least 6 of those rounds and an arguement could be made for one of the close ones too. That judge from new jersey isnt just blind, he obviously biased or paid off or both. Home cooking at its very best......

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                  #28
                  I don't think martinez/sturm is a good fight.

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