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    #31
    Originally posted by shadeyfizzle View Post
    Why dont u provide some evidence of Roger doing or saying anything even remotely close to relevant with helping Floyd win a fight instead of talking smack???

    I know the man knows his boxing. So do Sugar Ray Leonard and Tommy Hearns but both were **** as trainers.


    And for the record I think Nacho Beristain is the best trainer out there. Freddie Roach has had some good fighters who already had good backgrounds win belts but it's hard to argue against 17world champions built from scratch.
    Mayweather and his team dont allow anybody to see any of their inside game or information on how they prepare for fights, they dont allow cameras into sparring, nor do they let ANYONE, not even their entourage, get wind of their strategy.

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      #32
      Originally posted by shadeyfizzle View Post
      1st of all why dont you try reading my post right on the 1st page saying Nacho is the trainer i regard the most highly because he has trained 17 world champions from scratch. Meaning from the moment a child steps into the gym for the 1st time without any knowledge of fighting all the way until world championship fights.

      Roach and Stewart have trained multiple world champions but they were already established before they ever got their hands on them.

      Rigondeaux, Khan and Toney all already had olympic pedigree before Roach ever trained them. Even Manny Pacquiao was already a world champion before he ever met Freddie Roach.

      And while I agree about Floyd Sr and Roger not having done much as far as trainers outside of Floyd jr. You have to at the very least give Sr credit for training his son from scratch since childhood. He would not have made it to the olympics without it.
      being a olympic medalist & being a great proffesional world champion is not the same thing. The gap between the two is huge and cannot be described as established. Very far from it. If you cant differentiate between the two, you are a hopeless case.

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        #33
        Originally posted by El Jesus View Post
        Mayweather and his team dont allow anybody to see any of their inside game or information on how they prepare for fights, they dont allow cameras into sparring, nor do they let ANYONE, not even their entourage, get wind of their strategy.
        why are they so scared to show sparring footage? almost every great fighter in the history of the sport show sparring footage. They need to hide their game plan for fighting a 36 year old career featherweight with 55 plus fights & just went through the ringer fighting casamayor, diaz, & pacquiao when they have a 32 year old undefeated welterweight former junior middleweight champion?

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          #34
          Originally posted by DonTaseMeBrah View Post
          being a olympic medalist & being a great proffesional world champion is not the same thing. The gap between the two is huge and cannot be described as established. Very far from it. If you cant differentiate between the two, you are a hopeless case.
          there was a time when making that transition was seamless because of the judging standards, however today i cant really say that. The way olympic boxing is structured is bull****, its based basically on pitty pat scoring and nothing more. after they robbed roy jones, when they changed the scoring, its been horrible ever since. Many amatuers today who dont go to the olympics can still be good pros depending on how they prepared as far the amatuers go.

          But, today? as of the last 20 years? id hardly call anyone with an olympic medal polished. how you prepare for olympic boxing isnt even the same as how you prepare for an amatuer fight, the scoring is just redundant.

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            #35
            Originally posted by DonTaseMeBrah View Post
            why are they so scared to show sparring footage? almost every great fighter in the history of the sport show sparring footage. They need to hide their game plan for fighting a 36 year old career featherweight with 55 plus fights & just went through the ringer fighting casamayor, diaz, & pacquiao when they have a 32 year old undefeated welterweight former junior middleweight champion?
            Obviously what they do works, im not really here to question their success. Maybe when you are handling fighters and guiding them, then you can give yorue opinion on why they should reveal to the whole world what they do.

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              #36
              this thread smells like haterizm,cowardance,nutt-huggery,nerdyness.

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                #37
                Originally posted by El Jesus View Post
                Obviously what they do works, im not really here to question their success. Maybe when you are handling fighters and guiding them, then you can give yorue opinion on why they should reveal to the whole world what they do.
                How much credit do you think Roger Mayweather should get as a trainer for Floyd's success?

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by shadeyfizzle View Post
                  How much credit do you think Roger Mayweather should get as a trainer for Floyd's success?
                  Mayweather made a seamless transition with his uncle. Hes always prepared, and hes always dominant. Alot of guys, including pac, have appearences where they dont exactly look sharp every night, or they have off nights, everyone has an off night, however with mayweather, hes had one off night ever in his career and it was rumored to be injury, so regardless, whatever it is they do, they do it well in respect to mayweather and what he does.

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                    #39
                    Roger Mayweather is a HOF trainer and fighter! The man knows this game better than most "experts" think! PBF is what he is cause of his uncle, not cause of his father, who was never there for him, and who couldn't even train dlj to beat F.Strum or R.Hatton to beat Manny Pacquiao! Roger may not be liked by many cause if his manners, (same as PBF) but when it comes to BOXING in that squared circle, NO ONE CAN HANG WITH THEM!!!!!!!!!!

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by DoubleM View Post
                      How do you know Roger doesn't watch film. Do you follow him around 24/7 or just watch a 1 minute snippet on TV. Roger is a boxing guru and lives and breathes boxing. For you to question his training techniques his laughable.

                      In your eyes, Roach is the only good trainer out there lol. Naive Pacman fans.

                      The ******ity of some people astonishes me,
                      heheheheh.....

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