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    #11
    Originally posted by DLT View Post


    go to like 2:22 of the video and listen to Roger tell him to throw them body shots
    Iono man.....i didnt hear him yelling to throw body shots. I heard him sayin "right there" after the fact. but thank you for providing a legitimate case instead of simply nutthugging.

    But as far as the topic goes.....Roger only has 1 fighter that im aware of. How good of a trainer does that make him to point out an opening during the fight? Especially if his fighter wasnt exactly doing a good job following instructions for awhile.

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      #12
      Originally posted by DLT View Post
      He says that we just "followed the game plan" and stuck with it.
      the plan is to run and run some more!

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        #13
        Roger Mayweather is a great very knowledgable trainer... he doesnt get the respect and recognition he deserves because of his personality

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          #14
          Originally posted by shadeyfizzle View Post
          Iono man.....i didnt hear him yelling to throw body shots. I heard him sayin "right there" after the fact. but thank you for providing a legitimate case instead of simply nutthugging.

          But as far as the topic goes.....Roger only has 1 fighter that im aware of. How good of a trainer does that make him to point out an opening during the fight? Especially if his fighter wasnt exactly doing a good job following instructions for awhile.
          Nah man, are you sure you are looking at the time right? Im not talking about the round but 2:22 on the video. Start it at about 2:18 and listen carefully. Its right before Floyd throws that body shot that hurts him

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            #15
            Roger is a great trainer don't hate he has been trainng the former #1 P4P fighter in world his whole carrer hasn't he? ok then so thats all you need to know right there every trainner that went up against Roger no matter how great they are lost Roach Nacho Buddy and the list goes on so don't try to say he is not a good trainner i bet you don't know half of what Roger knows about boxing the man knows some **** and should get some credit he trained the best fighter in world and still hasn't got trainer of the year if thats not some bull**** i dont know what is

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              #16
              Originally posted by South318 View Post
              Besides Beristain and Roach name trainers that the media go into detail about. These are guys who have been training for decades so they'll get way more media outlet of their details. Roger and Floyd Sr are good trainers, they don't have to say much because Floyd has been around them since he came out of his mom. So, Floyd knows what's up. And listen to the corner in between fights, he does tell Floyd what to do. Not everyone talks about their game plan in the media.
              What??? My criticism of Roger Mayweather is the same criticsm i have for Freddie Roach for every other fighter he has except for Pacquiao. Roger has Floyd but Floyd was already trained by his father a complete fighter with experience, a world title and olympic bronze medal once he got him. So what exactly has he contributed to the pot is what I'm asking.

              Freddie Roach gets credit for Amir Khan and Guillermo Rigondeaux but both have olympic pedigree. He also got credit for James Toney but Toney was already a proven force to be reckoned with.

              Nacho built world champions from scratch. Personally I'm also impressed with Anne Wolf as a trainer than Roger for turning kirkland into a force with as much speed as fighters 2 weight classes lower than him before he went to jail.

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                #17
                Perhaps, we can say that Rodger's job has been made easier due to Floyd's
                self-discipline. Isn't that any trainer's dream job?

                Apparently, Rodger is doing something right or he wouldn't be around Floyd
                that much. Their chemistry while working together probably couldn't be any better.

                I think, as long as he's doing what is required of him, it's all good. His most important duty in corner is to be Floyd's eyes and ears.

                If folks suggest that Floyd trains himself, that only shows you how good Floyd is. Maybe he doesn't need a trainer.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by MindBat View Post
                  Perhaps, we can say that Rodger's job has been made easier due to Floyd's
                  self-discipline. Isn't that any trainer's dream job?

                  Apparently, Rodger is doing something right or he wouldn't be around Floyd
                  that much. Their chemistry while working together probably couldn't be any better.

                  I think, as long as he's doing what is required of him, it's all good. His most important duty in corner is to be Floyd's eyes and ears.

                  If folks suggest that Floyd trains himself, that only shows you how good Floyd is. Maybe he doesn't need a trainer.
                  well that's exactly what i'm saying. Chemistry is good between them but most times it seems like uncle roger is simply a workout buddy as opposed to a trainer to improve his fighter.

                  during pac/cotto 24/7 Michael Koncz made a statement saying he believed that Roach would not be considered anywhere near as good of a trainer if it wasnt for Pacquiao.

                  So i started asking myself the same thing about Roger Mayweather. How much credit does he deserve for Floyd's success?

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by shadeyfizzle View Post
                    Seriously....i dont think he's done anything to improve Floyd's skills or career. The dude is just there to hold pads, yell and motivate in the corner to collect a paycheck.

                    I think Floyd pretty much trains himself. Roger holds the pads but does the same pad routines that Floyd has been doing since he was a kid. Floyd only looks blindingly fast working the mitts in training to the untrained eye because he's had the pattern memorized for 20+years already. Roger doesnt watch any film of Floyd's opponents and really doesnt say much of anything relevant for adjustment during fights. He just has positive feedback if Floyd is doing good and jumps on his case if he's not doing so good.
                    trainer? you mean pad man. He hasnt done jack outside of Afraid Mayweather jr. He's the same as jack mosley, roy sr. & enzo calzaghe. true test of a great trainer is training multiple fighters into title fights & into becoming great fighters. Not riding your nephew's talented coattails & fool people into thinking he's great.

                    His brother is another one. The steroid expert former ex convict drug dealer. He hasnt led or guided any fighters into prominence or championship tittle fights, but since he SPEAKS & YELLS to everybody that he's the greatest trainer of all time some poor saps actually believe it. Does that sound familiar? O yea his son, keeps on saying he's the greatest fighter of all time when his only bonafide true hall of famer on his resume is a old oscar & old career featherweight marquez.

                    It always amazes me how gullible people are. Great trainers have multiple fighters that become great & win world titles.

                    other trainers during the Crack Brothers times;

                    Nacho Beristain - rafa & juan marquez, Chiqiuto Gonzalez, daniel zaragoza, ricardo lopez the list goes on.

                    Freddie Roach - Pacquiao, Marlon Starling, Virgil Hill, micheal moorer the list goes on & now Amir Khan.

                    Emmanuel Steward - tommy hearns, wladimir klitckho, lennox lewis, the list goes on.

                    Floyd Senior - giving birth to Afraid jr. then going to jail for selling drugs, getting fired by chad dawson, & training joan guzman to NOT MAKE WEIGHT vs Nate Campbell.


                    Roger Slobber Tooth tiger - Afraid jr., cornelius lock, & melissa st. vale who he beats & tries to choke.

                    Floyd Sr. is such a great trainer that he trains hatton by working with him in the orthodox stance when ricky is about to fight the greatest southpaw since pernell whitaker.

                    How can people be so gullible?

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Mr. President View Post
                      Mods, you can go ahead and close this thread cause this guy just deaded it.
                      bwhaahhhahah!

                      this dude is still here?

                      I thought he told us to mark his words!!!!

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