Manny Pacquiao is greater then Pernell Whitaker - Bert Sugar

[damned1974]

this is for you damned1974;

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Look- the only thing I am seeing on there is fan mentality on that thread-I don't see a valid debate.When I asked which slick fighter Manny has fought,then some people must assume that it is a racial thing-or because of what Nate Campbell had said-that is seperate to what I am saying.The truth is,I cannot find a match Manny has been in,where he is fighting someone who is slick- it doesn't mean it's his fault.I have,however, mentioned how I think there is a bit of "smoke and mirrors" with his last 4 fights and I have given legitimate reasoning and facts.Keep in mind,I love this sport,I am not a fan of any certain fighter-I don't have a favourite fighter as I like a lot of different styles...
I think the mentality for most fans here is to buy into the hype of a certain fighter,buy the ppv against a guy with more disadvantages than not,and claim him the next Sugar Ray Robinson- that is what Bob Arum is doing to a degree with Pacquiao. Don't get me wrong though,because as I have mentioned before,I think Manny is good at what he does,but against someone like Mayweather-I feel the odds are against him.I also give Manny 100% props if he wins,but as of right now,I will be level-headed and not buy into the b.s. I have noticed with the hype and Manny's last 4 fights.....make sense?

[DonTaseMeBrah]

I can't believe people really think Pacquiao ducked Nate Campbell. Wow.

this is the internet brah. I can do a interview with boxingscene & say pac is ducking me & trust me there will be plenty of idiots ready to agree just for the sake of dragging down a fighter they dont like.

Look- the only thing I am seeing on there is fan mentality on that thread-I don't see a valid debate.When I asked which slick fighter Manny has fought,then some people must assume that it is a racial thing-or because of what Nate Campbell had said-that is seperate to what I am saying.The truth is,I cannot find a match Manny has been in,where he is fighting someone who is slick- it doesn't mean it's his fault.I have,however, mentioned how I think there is a bit of "smoke and mirrors" with his last 4 fights and I have given legitimate reasoning and facts.Keep in mind,I love this sport,I am not a fan of any certain fighter-I don't have a favourite fighter as I like a lot of different styles...
I think the mentality for most fans here is to buy into the hype of a certain fighter,buy the ppv against a guy with more disadvantages than not,and claim him the next Sugar Ray Robinson- that is what Bob Arum is doing to a degree with Pacquiao. Don't get me wrong though,because as I have mentioned before,I think Manny is good at what he does,but against someone like Mayweather-I feel the odds are against him.I also give Manny 100% props if he wins,but as of right now,I will be level-headed and not buy into the b.s. I have noticed with the hype and Manny's last 4 fights.....make sense?

I gave you proof, boxing proof & statistics & records of the one percieved great slick american boxer that Afraid Mayweather jr. fought.

NON slick great hall of fame fighters > mediocre slick american figters.

[joartcc5]

So what clan of posters do you associate me with?

U can't really lecture somebody

On their language

When U post like this, to...

Still dont get it do u.

U people are so dumb its not funny.

[RingTech01]

bert sugar claims that tyson punched a whole through his dressing room door and his fist landed right in front of spink's face who was in the neighboring room. also that pep won a round without throwing a punch. his top 25 consists of fighters who were around before color television and cable. he lost credability a long time ago.

[joartcc5]

bert sugar claims that tyson punched a whole through his dressing room door and his fist landed right in front of spink's face who was in the neighboring room. also that pep won a round without throwing a punch. his top 25 consists of fighters who were around before color television and cable. he lost credability a long time ago.

By whose standards???

You?

Lols!

[RingTech01]

By whose standards???

You?

Lols!

i'm guessing you've been reading my posts and following me around. go play somewhere.

[damned1974]

this is the internet brah. I can do a interview with boxingscene & say pac is ducking me & trust me there will be plenty of idiots ready to agree just for the sake of dragging down a fighter they dont like.



I gave you proof, boxing proof & statistics & records of the one percieved great slick american boxer that Afraid Mayweather jr. fought.

NON slick great hall of fame fighters > mediocre slick american figters.

LOL-so you are assuming that because fighter "A" beats fighter "B",that fighter "C" wins-honestly,that's poor judgement-I wouldn't place money on that sort of generalized failed logic.I also wonder why you involve nationalities in this-that is what I mean by adopting a "fan" mentality.If you come from an immature stance that favours someone based on nationalities,bias or whom your "favourite" fighter is-I can care less to listen,but if you want to think for yourself,and as a fan of the sport-I am all ears.btw-Do you want to comment on his last 4 fights, or are you going to buy into all the hype and declare these as brilliant wins that should elevate someone into an atg status-because honestly I don't buy it....

[Chew BackAtacha]

IMO its not even close pacquiao was just ahead in whitaker in the atg standings.

think about that for a minute

[sweetpea87]

sweetpea much better when it come to defense

For sure, I think that some people might think Manny is better because he has a harder punch and has been knocking people out, where Pernell was fine with kicking your ass over 12 rounds and taking an easy decision. I still go with my man Whitaker.

[Calilloyd]

Pretty Bold statement considering Sweat Pea is considered one the greats of the modern era.

His interview with Steve Kim can be found here, good listen btw.

Bert Sugar also thinks Jack Dempsey is the greatest heavyweight ever............