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Manny Pacquiao is greater then Pernell Whitaker - Bert Sugar

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    #31
    Manny Pacquiao is not in Pernell Whitaker's league Pernell would make easy work of Pacquiao they shouldn't even be in the sentence together i can't belave people compare Pacquiao to greats such as Ali and Ray Robinson and Pernell Whitaker his hype is going to far Pacquiao is not even a real ATG the only thing that makes him one is 7 titles in 7 divions and he really didn't even do that so they need to stop and wait until his career is over and then see where he falls in with the ATG's

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      #32
      i disagree bert,but respect your opinion

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        #33
        Originally posted by King22 View Post
        Manny Pacquiao is not in Pernell Whitaker's league Pernell would make easy work of Pacquiao they shouldn't even be in the sentence together i can't belave people compare Pacquiao to greats such as Ali and Ray Robinson and Pernell Whitaker his hype is going to far Pacquiao is not even a real ATG the only thing that makes him one is 7 titles in 7 divions and he really didn't even do that so they need to stop and wait until his career is over and then see where he falls in with the ATG's
        Couldn't have said it better. This Pacquiao stuff is really getting out of hand, it's unbelievable.

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          #34
          Originally posted by Hyde View Post
          imo Manny Pacquiao is greater than Whitaker, both in terms of resume and accomplishments.

          Pac's resume:

          Oscar De La Hoya
          Ricky Hatton
          Miguel Cotto
          Juan Manuel Marquez
          Marco Antonio Barrera(x2)
          Erik Morales(x2)

          Whitaker's resume:

          Julio Cesar Chavez(he won that fight)
          Diosbelys Hurtado
          Greg Haugen
          Roger Mayweather
          Azumah Nelson
          Jorge Paez

          Pac is a 7 weight world champion
          Whitaker is a 4 weight world champion

          In terms of skill then yes Whitaker is better but defenitley not in terms of resume and accomplishments. If we just go by skill then it wouldn't be to far fetched to call Zab Judah an all time great... Don't get me wrong, Pernell Whitaker is one of the best of all time... I just feel Pacquiao is slightly better.

          you have to take Cotto, especially hatton and DLH

          these guys were shot and perfectly matched for pac since they'd be ineffective

          so were EM and MAB

          if you want totalk about names, ok. but when it comes to level of Competition...those 5 guys were shot

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            #35
            Originally posted by Hyde View Post
            imo Manny Pacquiao is greater than Whitaker, both in terms of resume and accomplishments.

            Pac's resume:

            Oscar De La Hoya
            Ricky Hatton
            Miguel Cotto
            Juan Manuel Marquez
            Marco Antonio Barrera(x2)
            Erik Morales(x2)

            Whitaker's resume:

            Julio Cesar Chavez(he won that fight)
            Diosbelys Hurtado
            Greg Haugen
            Roger Mayweather
            Azumah Nelson
            Jorge Paez

            Pac is a 7 weight world champion
            Whitaker is a 4 weight world champion

            In terms of skill then yes Whitaker is better but defenitley not in terms of resume and accomplishments. If we just go by skill then it wouldn't be to far fetched to call Zab Judah an all time great... Don't get me wrong, Pernell Whitaker is one of the best of all time... I just feel Pacquiao is slightly better.
            i cant a believe me and you are in total agreement on something

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              #36
              Originally posted by sycomantz View Post
              you have to take Cotto, especially hatton and DLH

              these guys were shot and perfectly matched for pac since they'd be ineffective

              so were EM and MAB

              if you want totalk about names, ok. but when it comes to level of Competition...those 5 guys were shot
              How can you say Cotto and hatton were shot ??? they both had only one loss each and both had won their previous fights collectively !

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                #37
                Its funny when people say things you want to hear then it becomes relevant all of a sudden. So many times Ive heard Sugar's name thrown in mud on this site, until he tickles the ear.

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Mrpedigree View Post
                  i cant a believe me and you are in total agreement on something
                  oh and btw Joe Calzaghe was a total ****in JOKE and a FRAUD.

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                    #39
                    if you analyze it, the only skill pernell have over manny is his slip and duck defense. speed they're the same, pac might be faster so he obviously could somehow break every now and then thru pernell's defense. given pac's superior footwork over pernell, it's a very big possibility. and pernell's offense isnt really his forte and his power is moderate, so how in the hell could he stop manny from coming in consistently for 12rnds?

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                      #40
                      yea **** bert sugar & emmanuel steward. they dont know **** about boxing & boxing history.......




                      lets listen to people who post on the internet in a boxing website. They are the only real authority. Nobody gets ATG unless people who post in NSB say so.


                      & for that matter **** IBHOF votes. Only poll votes in NSB count.

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