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    #81
    Originally posted by cortdawg25 View Post
    he won't need to clutch often. all he ahs to do is stick that right shoulder into manny chest like shield and he controls distance and can roll uppercuts right under manny left. just like what he did to Oscar.


    manny's best shot at landing on floyd will be wild looping punches. but he doesn't have the reach to land it though. corley landed a looping left, but corley has a 178 cm reach

    zab barely landed punches and he was just as quick with a reach just as long.

    yall don't understand the distance and range in this fight. manny isn't that much if at all quicker in hands or foot to overcome that distance.
    hatton is not quicker than pac but he closed the distance for the first few rounds. pac speed will match floyds. mayweather aint going to see where the punches are coming from. pac is very unpredictable, he never does the same thing in the ring, how is mayweather going to figure him out if he always changes his attacks.

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      #82
      So many good points here on both sides except for some idiotic posts by a few *****s and ******s.

      I can see it also as 50/50 with no clear advantage yet who can and will dominate or even just a slight edge for either two fighters but if you ask me now where to put my money it would surely be on Pac.

      IDK really as this match i highly doubt will happen too and if ever it will, how much i'm going to risk money will depend as the days gets nearer on the actual fight.

      Thank you all to those who made very sensible analysis, keep it up.

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        #83
        Originally posted by fcastro1 View Post
        hatton is not quicker than pac but he closed the distance for the first few rounds. pac speed will match floyds. mayweather aint going to see where the punches are coming from. pac is very unpredictable, he never does the same thing in the ring, how is mayweather going to figure him out if he always changes his attacks.
        Floyd didn't use his legs against hatton...his strategy was to let hatton get close and leap in so he could catch him with the check hook.


        if u go back and watch that fight Lederman and them was wondering why floyd wasn't moving. Merchant thought hatton was too quick for him to get out of the way. it was all by design and hatton still couldn't land nothing.


        now in regards to manny, he isn't unpredictable. he does the same thing every fight. he trys to counter your jab with hooks over the top, he fakes a jab and throws a lead straight left and he spins his opponent after flurries. he does that lil sidestep to the right in every fight. he is not unpredictable!

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          #84
          Originally posted by PAKYO View Post
          So many good points here on both sides except for some idiotic posts by a few *****s and ******s.

          I can see it also as 50/50 with no clear advantage yet who can and will dominate or even just a slight edge for either two fighters but if you ask me now where to put my money it would surely be on Pac.

          IDK really as this match i highly doubt will happen too and if ever it will, how much i'm going to risk money will depend as the days gets nearer on the actual fight.

          Thank you all to those who made very sensible analysis, keep it up.
          whatn't it breath of fresh air to actually talk boxing strategy and give reason why a fighter will win instead of all the name calling and gay this and coward that...this is how it used to be here.

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            #85
            strait up, i think it comes down to who is refereeing the fight (love me some bayless) if mayweather is allowed to hold behind the head like he does at times and lead with that right elbow, he can win it easy!

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              #86
              Originally posted by NorvernRob View Post
              Certainly true, but Pac was repeatedly lowering his left slightly as he came towards Cotto, he does that against Floyd and he'll be eating lead rights before he can get close enough to throw himself.
              Very possible...I can't argue that.

              Originally posted by cortdawg25 View Post
              manny didn't show good pressure...he couldn't even cut off the ring. all he id ws follow Cotto. cotto is no superb boxer, he has to plant to punch and he is very robotic. Floyd is fluid motion and get use angles just as well.

              But Floyd is a master of distance and setting and traps and making u think. manny is gonna have to deal with feints, triple jabs, lead hooks, lead right hands, jabs to the body, up jabs. and once floyd got his jab going, then that is when the lead hooks wil be efficient. manny will prolly walk rightinto a check hook!
              I didn't say he Manny showed good pressure...I simply said he applies pressure, with that came with volume, speed, and angles. I also disagree with Cotto being robotic, and not being a superb boxer...Cotto has demonstrated great boxing ability in his career.

              I think Floyd is great, but I don't think he is a fluid boxer. I think fluidity as one who is elusive, one that moves in unicen with a particular motion. Floyd is defensively sound and his shoulder roll is fluid and he's quick. Other than to your point Floyd sets traps, and sits there waiting for the punch to counter off of it. Fluid = Pernell Whitaker. Floyd is not so much as a volume puncher, he is sharp and accurate when he throws, so when he throws one or two expect three or four from pac.
              Can't write more too busy lol....
              later

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                #87
                how do you counter a 12 punch combo Pac unleashed on Cotto?

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                  #88
                  Originally posted by My 2 Cents View Post
                  how do you counter a 12 punch combo Pac unleashed on Cotto?
                  Don't get in range of it?

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                    #89
                    [QUOTE=Dominicano Soy!;6710840]Since some people on here believe Mayweather is the easiest opponent for Pacquiao out of Cotto, Shane and Mayweather, I've decided to make this thread. Listen, despite Mayweather's outpu

                    The thing that Mayweather does consistently is bend to his right. That opens him up only to the fastest of left handers.

                    Due to the stand up style of Mayweather and his reach , makes him hard to reach, Pacmang will have to deal with that and the counter that waits him.

                    Mayweather proved he was hittable against little JMM ! Mayweather is not as fast as he was in smaller weight classes. He was drilled a time or two by JMM. Pacmang if he is sound and not broken by all the problems he is facing with his family will be able to hit him, and his punches are that of a strong Welter Weight. Pac has carried his speed and punch better than Mayweather as they climbed the weight divisions.

                    Mayweather is open for the Left HOOK ! Especially during the shoulder roll. He has never faced such speed and weird angles plus all the intangibles that Manny has for him.

                    ONE last thing, I love it when I am excoriated for saying this, smiles , He is showing the signs of someone who will QUIT when deep in the trenches. I was excoriated for saying that for 4 months against the great MR. Cotto, of whom I have respect but he QUIT in the Margo fight, and I KNEW he would QUIT IF brought back to the same trenches. Roger Mayweather wasn't as nearly beaten as Cotto in the fights with Margo and Pacmang but he tried to bluff Chavez by doing the Ali Shuffle , he was trying to send Chavez the message , see what I am doing , I am bad , don't mess with me, while all the time them bully boy Roger was scared in his heart , was defeated , had already QUIT in his heart and when Chavez was unaffected Roger mang QUIT on his stool with his head hanging down and he will NEVER FORGET IT and his fighter Jr. is showing the bluff signs. BLUFF !!! Always trying to BLUFF, and it works if you get into someones head, they become scared. Case in POINT : Tyson Holyfield; Tyson quit in his heart turned and went to the ropes then got KO'd. Second fight , friends were saying Tyson will KILL this time, I said NO, he will QUIT QUICKER this time, guess what he QUIT QUICKER !!!!!!!!!!

                    We don't know if Jr will QUIT, he is showing me the signs like a cur dog that is fixing to QUIT. He won't take on all comers, he is scared of losing his O, etc,,,,,,

                    the best,

                    Arcticfalconer p.s. its in the genes !!!!!!!!

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                      #90
                      Originally posted by arcticfalconer View Post
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                      We don't know if Jr will QUIT, he is showing me the signs like a cur dog that is fixing to QUIT. He won't take on all comers, he is scared of losing his O, etc,,,,,,

                      the best,

                      Arcticfalconer p.s. its in the genes !!!!!!!!

                      Although i hardly understand your writing, you got a very valid point too but i don't think floyd will quit on the stool. He might quit in his heart but definitely not in the stool.

                      Sorry for shortening your quote, don't need it anyway...

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