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    Pacquiao will do his best to get inside, then mayweather will surprise him... BAM!! Head-Bat.. It will end prematurely and Mayweather will win by split decision. That's Pacquiao-Mayweather 1... but you have to see the Mayweather-Pacquiao 2, Pac will knock him out brutally!!! The best fight of the Century. You have to live to see it! I'm from the future. One of you who are reading this right now will never see it.

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      Originally posted by Dominicano Soy! View Post
      Since some people on here believe Mayweather is the easiest opponent for Pacquiao out of Cotto, Shane and Mayweather, I've decided to make this thread. Listen, despite Mayweather's output, I'm gonna say that I honestly believe Mayweather will dictate the pace against Pacquiao (I know that people are already thinking "Boring"). I'm gonna start off with Mayweather's boxing stance






      Gonna be using Cotto as an example alot, don't take offense.

      Notice that the difference between Mayweather and Cotto is that Mayweather doesn't bend foward; doesn't have to expose himself to Pacquiao's offense. Not only is his stance straight, he can lean back and on the move also. Look at Cotto's stance for example,

      Much easier of a target. It didn't help that his head is down either.

      We're all used to seeing Mayweather come foward/ get more offensive against south paws, I don't see that happening against Pacquiao. After reading El Jesus's post on Mayweather saying that Pacquiao is one-dimensional, Mayweather is gonna try and outbox Pacquiao. As a Mayweather fan, I was lucky to see the late rounds on Cotto vs. Pacquiao because when Cotto started to move, I saw an average offense out of Pacquiao and Pacquiao seemed very very annoyed. Also, don't think for one second that Mayweather will stop moving because Pacquiao stopped in the middle of the ring only to bait him, ain't gonna work. Mayweather will crack a smile and continue to box. I predict Mayweather will be going toe to toe in about the 7th or 8th round. Not because Pacquiao has slowed down (That never happens) but because he will probably already have him figured.

      Lets look at the stats, Cotto has a 67 reach, Mayweather has a 72 reach and is 5'8, actually uses his height and reach. Lets also talk about Mayweather's straight right hand. When was the last time Pacquiao faced an opponent with a really good right hand? It was Marquez. Not Hatton, DLH, Cotto but Marquez, and we all saw the success Marquez had. Morales also deserves a mention. Not to say Pacquiao hasn't improved since then, because he has. The difference between Marquez's straight right as oppose to Mayweather's is that he doesn't clinch after landing it; Marquez would follow up with a combination and that leaves him vulnerable. Where as Mayweather would instead clinch and not allow the opponent to get off. Floyd will do anything not to allow Pacquiao to get off. With all this said, I'm inclined to believe Mayweather will dictate the pace.

      Mayweather's left hook ain't as devastating as Cotto's but Mayweather doesn't telegraph his punches. He doesn't have to plant his foot and get set; he can throw punches from pretty much all angles. Mayweather is the far more accurate puncher. I don't want to sound like I'm bashing Cotto either, I'm simply using him as an example; I really really am. On Youtube, I've subscribed to alot of people who talk boxing, and most have come to the conclusion that Pacquiao can beat Mayweather on activity alone. I strongly disagree because as I mentioned, Mayweather will dictate the pace and clinch. Another thing, Mayweather doesn't only use the shoulder roll. He's pretty good at using the high guard also,

      ddoboxing.com/boxing_photos/Floyd-Mayweather-Zab-Judah-fight22.JPG

      Last but not least, Mayweather cannot afford to give up the early rounds. I'm VERY serious when I say that. He simply cannot afford to do that.

      It's insane that I sound like I'm picking Mayweather but I view this as 50/50.


      Quality post, I agree with you almost wholeheartedly.

      Apart from that I believe Mayweather CAN give up the first 4 rounds while working out Pacquiao's speed. Floyd has to box on the back foot and perhaps give up early rounds to work out his speed and where and when he likes to throw his left (still Manny's best punch!). After round 5, Mayweather takes over and boxes Manny's ears off. oops!

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        floyd will get outworked... he doesn't throw enough punches and pac won't get tired like his other opponents and floyd won't be able to hurt pac.

        vegas judges will prefer pac's aggression

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          Good OP

          First off, I am a fan of both fighters. I've watched all but 2 of Floyd's and all but 5 or 6 of Manny's fights.

          This fight is difficult to predict. Simply because Pacquiao has improved so much in these past few fights, he’s a completely different fighter at 140-147. It does seem like his perfect weight is 140-144 so I don’t know how much he will slow at 147. I don’t think the 2 pounds would have made a difference in the Cotto fight but Mayweather is on another level. So if it is a 147lb fight, advantage Mayweather, the naturally bigger man.

          Mayweather has the height, weight and reach. So physically he has the advantage. He is far better defensively. His offence is underrated. He has good speed and power. It’s just that his style doesn’t lead to KO’s. And Mayweather does have a good chin, at the very least a decent one(the man never gets plastered on the regular so it is hard to tell)

          Pacquiao has the speed and I do believe he has a considerably harder punch on fight night, largely in part to him committing to his punches more. And his defence is underrated. The current Pacquiao has a good defence. But still it’s a fraction of Mayweather’s. Pacquiao has the intangible of coming at you in angles. And with his foot work/speed he is hard to hit. He has a great chin as well.

          Both of these fighters are great, really they have no faults. Pacquiao’s defence suits Pacquiao’s offence and Mayweather’s offence suits Mayweather’s defence. Don’t knock Mayweather’s offensive abilities because it is a product of his defensive tactics. The same can be said about Pacquiao’s Defence. Both are strong mentally.

          No predictions from me, the fight can go many ways. Both are great fighters. Pacquiao will be the best Mayweather has seen and vice versa. If I had to put money down on the fight i would bet on Mayweather, only because he's the bigger man. If a 5'6.5 Mayweather fought a 5'8 Pacquiao with each others respective reach, I bet on Pacquiao. It's a toss up, Should be a good one.

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            Originally posted by rhl View Post
            mannys last 4 opponents had c- defense.

            mark my words "manny has NEVER been in the ring with a REAL BOXER!!!!"
            points are scored on offense not defense. Pac is just gonna walk down floyd's potshots.

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              Floyd is not mentally prepared for this fight and may prices himself out on this fight. He only care about his "0". This the first time he may fight thinking himself he might lose. This will be the first time also he face someone will match his speed/stamina.Pac knowing he doesn't hit hard than Cotto and he has a brittle hands using 10oz gloves will just walk on his punches landing 3-5 combos of his against Floyd 1-2 shot. Pac will win by non stop aggression and by landing more punches. if he ran, Pac will stop at the middle like he did against Cotto and he will look like ******, coward and ***** by running to the smaller man.
              Last edited by whirlwind; 11-19-2009, 09:41 PM.

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                Pacquiao may just bring out the best in Floyd this time around.

                You have to ask: Who is Freddie going to hire as sparring partners to imitate Floyd's style?

                We know Oscar hired Shane to help out, but it didn't end right for him against Floyd.

                I'm guessing Pacquiao may likely over-train himself in pursuit of the perfect formula against his opponent.

                Manny's going to need to simply overwhelm Floyd and not make ANY mistakes if he hopes to win.

                Let the games begin!

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                  Originally posted by Dominicano Soy! View Post
                  As a Mayweather fan, I was lucky to see the late rounds on Cotto vs. Pacquiao because when Cotto started to move, I saw an average offense out of Pacquiao and Pacquiao seemed very very annoyed.
                  I got to this part and stopped.

                  What do you expect? How can you have a high output against someone who is running around constantly? Chase me around and try to fight me. I can guarantee I'll control the pace. Or instead, try chasing a fly around your house and swatting it. That's what it's like! Tell me how many time you can hit it. Now let it land, and see what happens when you hit it. ****** analogy, I know, but that's how it is.

                  Also, a number of people said Pacquiao looked like he didn't even want to hit Cotto any more because it was such a one-sided beating. I believe that. Manny is a good guy and there's no need to keep beating the **** out of someone who you feel sorry for. He stepped off the gas, Cotto was running in survival mode, and that's why Manny's output dropped.

                  It seems really ****** to me that you even mentioned his output, considering all this. Pacquiao usually is as busy in the last round as he is in the first, if not more so, because often he's turned up the pressure late in previous fights.



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                    Originally posted by MindBat View Post
                    Manny's going to need to simply overwhelm Floyd and not make ANY mistakes if he hopes to win.
                    That's what Shawn Porter said in a thread on here. He said he would be relentless and not allow Floyd to breathe.

                    Me, I wouldn't do that. Mayweather wants people to follow him around the ring. It doesn't work. I would sit down and read the newspaper instead and **** up his game plan up.



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                      Right hand counter shots could be Pac's downfall. If he and Roach had a plan to deal with them, you would think they would've done everything they could to perfect it before JMM-II. As we saw, JMM was still able to tag him with the right.

                      Pac and Roach have their work cut out for them.

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