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    #21
    Originally posted by Iceta View Post
    Well, this should put to rest the argument that Paul Williams is ducking Clottey. Maybe even Martinez too. Paul is a bigger name than both of these guys, and yet these guys are out pricing themselves. Neither of their resumes are as good as Paul's.
    Martinez does have a belt tho

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      #22
      Another thing too. It's Martinez who is ducking Paul Williams right now and not the other way around. People need to use their heads a little bit. Didn't everyone read that one story of where Dibella said that Martinez had to be financially compensated to fight Williams at 160? These guys wolf that ****, but when it comes time to throw down, P-Will has got em shook. The only guy who really wants the fight is Dzinziruk.

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        #23
        refusing 650k? The guy gotta be a multi millionaire...
        I would take the money even though Im convinced that I'll be lying on the canvas after 30 sec

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          #24
          i guess clottey aint getting a fight this year

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            #25
            Originally posted by BIGPOPPAPUMP View Post
            After Kelly Pavlik's unfortunate withdrawal from December's fight with Paul Williams, promoter Dan Goossen has been trying his best to secure a replacement. WBO junior middleweight champion Sergiy Dzinziruk is in the middle of a contract dispute with German-based promotional company Universum. That rules Dzinziruk out. Another possible name is WBC 154-pound champion Sergio Martinez. I've heard the two sides are still discussing the money involved. [details]
            Clottey and Martinez just pay Paul 50 million dollars and he will fight you! Or are you scared to pay all that money?

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              #26
              Originally posted by mathed View Post
              Martinez does have a belt tho
              He never had to beat a champion for it though. Vernon Forrest avoided him, and I'm not dis*****g that. But that is because he was at the end of his career looking for one last payday. Williams has always won his titles from the actual champ and never scavenged off a vacant title belt like all of these guys have except for Mosley. Clottey got the IBF belt without having to beat Margarito so he's won his title in vacant fashion too. Berto won a vacant belt. Even though Cotto is the king of that, I hold other fighters to the same standard.

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                #27
                Originally posted by reedickyaluss View Post
                Clottey will get overwhelmed in ihs defensive shell... he doesnt throw enough.

                yep he will have to be way more active and show more power than I have seen him have but I will say his jab, timing and D seem to keep improving. He is a big dude so maybe 154 would help him with his endurance and punch volume? dont know, dont care that much really. Williams should go after Martinez or Sturm.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Iceta View Post
                  He never had to beat a champion for it though. Vernon Forrest avoided him, and I'm not dis*****g that. But that is because he was at the end of his career looking for one last payday. Williams has always won his titles from the actual champ and never scavenged off a vacant title belt like all of these guys have except for Mosley. Clottey got the IBF belt without having to beat Margarito so he's won his title in vacant fashion too. Berto won a vacant belt. Even though Cotto is the king of that, I hold other fighters to the same standard.

                  wait up Williams won his 154 belt off of an aging Verno Phillips, looked good doing it but Verno is no world beater. He wants to fight there are plenty of guys Im sure who would fight him but he is being selective which is his prerogative he just shouldnt ***** so much.

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                    #29
                    HBO needs to put the pressure on both Mayweather and Mosley to fight Paul Williams. I'm getting sick of both of those guys.

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                      #30
                      I don't think Williams will be fighting on Dec 5th. They may have to push to January. I do believe it will be Martinez vs Williams

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