Does DDD get a pass

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

Again, you haven't actually stated anything positive the WBA has done. All you've said is that they've managed to exist for a long period of time. So what?

If the WBA had never existed, the history of boxing changes for the better. We would lose absolutely nothing if we had just the WBC, IBF, and WBO.

By not actively poisoning the sport every single fan does more for boxing than the WBA. The WBA is a net negative, so even people who don't watch boxing are better for boxing than the WBA.

And now they're giving another heavyweight title to the winner of Fabio Wardley vs Jarrell "5 time PED cheat" Miller. Happy? Back to three WBA champions per division?

"Agree to disagree" is such a nonsense thing to say when you haven't actually made any coherent arguments. I'm saying the sky is blue, you're saying it's made out of Gouda cheese. Agree to disagree, or maybe one of us has no leg to stand on.

They haven’t regulated fights for over 60 years? They haven’t created opportunities for boxers to earn money? They haven’t made financial contributions to the sport? They haven’t made charitable donations to help the sport?

Let’s just get rid of all that lineage because some little b**** on the forums doesn’t like them. You talk with such self-importance yet what have you ever contributed to boxing?

I don’t particularly like the WBA, but they’ve also done have a long and storied history in boxing. I would like to see major reform within the organisation but I would also like for them to remain within the sport. That opinion is not going to change and I don’t care if you agree or not so please just let it go you weird little c***.

[famicommander]

They haven’t regulated fights for over 60 years? They haven’t created opportunities for boxers to earn money? They haven’t made financial contributions to the sport? They haven’t made charitable donations to help the sport?

Let’s just get rid of all that lineage because some little b**** on the forums doesn’t like them. You talk with such self-importance yet what have you ever contributed to boxing?

I don’t particularly like the WBA, but they’ve also done have a long and storied history in boxing. I would like to see major reform within the organisation but I would also like for them to remain within the sport. That opinion is not going to change and I don’t care if you agree or not so please just let it go you weird little c***.

Once again... those functions could and would have been performed by the WBC or any other random organization if the WBA didn't exist. Literally all the WBA did was exist. And then they set about ruining the sport, to the point where both Kubrat Pulev and the upcoming winner of Wardley vs Miller have WBA world heavyweight title belts.

So, once again, your argument boils own to... the WBA should continue to exist because the have existed for a long time. And that's absolute nonsense.

They have eroded the credibility and reputation of the sport for decades and there is no undoing the harm they have caused.

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

Once again... those functions could and would have been performed by the WBC or any other random organization if the WBA didn't exist. Literally all the WBA did was exist. And then they set about ruining the sport, to the point where both Kubrat Pulev and the upcoming winner of Wardley vs Miller have WBA world heavyweight title belts.

So, once again, your argument boils own to... the WBA should continue to exist because the have existed for a long time. And that's absolute nonsense.

They have eroded the credibility and reputation of the sport for decades and there is no undoing the harm they have caused.

So I provide examples of good they’ve done for the sport and you just deflect.

Now again, what have you ever contributed to boxing? Don’t avoid the question… Again.

[famicommander]

So I provide examples of good they’ve done for the sport and you just deflect.

Now again, what have you ever contributed to boxing? Don’t avoid the question… Again.

I didn't avoid the question. Just consuming boxing on television and PPV is more positive for the sport than the WBA.

Once again... if the WBA didn't exist, some other group would have. The WBA's existence was a symptom of the state of the boxing industry at that point in time. They didn't create anything, they just sunk their vampire teeth into it and then subsequently started a 60 year campaign to ruin boxing. You think fighters became boxers and took fights because the WBA created those opportunities? You have it backwards; the WBA saw a thriving industry and attached itself to it like a parasite.

You might as well be here defending Don King despite him literally killing two people and stealing untold millions of dollars from fighters. He's been around a long time and promoted a lot of fights, so he must've been good, right? Think of all those guys who got paid on Don King cards, he must have been great for boxing? No, if Don King wasn't promoting those fighters someone else would have. And probably someone a lot less evil than Don.

My god, you really have zero concept of cause and effect nor any idea how to construct an argument.

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

I didn't avoid the question. Just consuming boxing on television and PPV is more positive for the sport than the WBA.

Once again... if the WBA didn't exist, some other group would have. The WBA's existence was a symptom of the state of the boxing industry at that point in time. They didn't create anything, they just sunk their vampire teeth into it and then subsequently started a 60 year campaign to ruin boxing. You think fighters became boxers and took fights because the WBA created those opportunities? You have it backwards; the WBA saw an thriving industry and attached itself to it like a parasite.

You might as well be here defending Don King despite him literally killing two people and stealing untold millions of dollars from fighters. He's been around a long time and promoted a lot of fights, so he must've been good, right?

My god, you really have zero concept of cause and effect nor any idea how to construct and argument.

Completely delusional. I bet you barely even attend fights too.

Negatives don’t completely eliminate positives. Don King for all his faults has contributed a lot to the sport too, fully worthy of his HOF induction.

[famicommander]

Completely delusional. I bet you barely even attend fights too.

Negatives don’t completely eliminate positives. Don King for all his faults has contributed a lot to the sport too, fully worthy of his HOF induction.

You are completely insane and beyond rational thought. Don King has done more harm to boxing than any man alive. The damage that his corruption has caused to the reputation of the sport cannot ever be undone.

[billeau2]

Restructure? Just shut them down, nothing would be lost by losing one of the governing bodies.

Hell, nothing would be lost by shutting down all of them.

If we had one, or two at most, and people paid attention to the true winner who beat the best to become the best things would straighten out quite nicely. Combatives seem to like smoke and mirrors, multiple champs, designated because they can be, not because they have skills... It amounts to encouraging puffery of the highest order. Fighters like Wach, Whyte, are hyped up, while young fighters coming up are told they need to come along slowly while their careers are melted away by time.

[billeau2]

It was hilarious when Dubois exposed Hrgovic as the big stiff I always told you he was.

YES!! The stiff croat!!! Dr Z's favorite! Was supposed to beat the division into line! I remember it all now it is coming back!

[billeau2]

He did nothing of the sort. Hrgovic underestimated him, was winning the fight, then he got cut and Dubois fouled with his head butts. Check the video, you will see I am correct.

Let this be a waring to him to be in shape and never underestimate a puncher.

Anyway, Hrgovic fights the man who TKO'd Dubos next.

After that he is back in the mix.

Lol Sure he did!

[champion4ever]

Hell yeah! I mean if the IBF has ranked Del Boy as its #1 ranked contender.